The Taliban and Our National Interest!

Guest contribution by Hossp

The Pakistan government on many occasions has stated that it would talk to the extremists only after they lay down their arms.  After a long in-camera presentation, debate, and arguments in the Parliament, it seems that the Pakistan government intends to take a firm line against the extremists in FATA. However, the PPP government has still not been able to convince a good number of politicians, intellectuals, and general public that a strong action in FATA is the best way to go.

A healthy but emotions packed debate of the Law Makers in the parliament as well as the Opinion Makers in the media is a tremendously welcome sign for the democracy. Pakistan has been trying to shed the stigma of secretive closed door decisions of a few, for the last many years. This debate would enormously help build confidence in democracy. The patience shown by the ruling party on this issue is commendable and the extensive input of the Pakistanis at home or abroad through the media has given people a strong sense of participation in the national affairs.

There is an elementary principle of reasoning: it’s known as making distinctions. The Government is facing a rough and highly charged resistance on this issue because the ruling party has not been able to frame the issue in the right context. Majority of Pakistanis absolutely would not connect with the global war on terror and the trepidations are not unreasonable. The issue really is not whether this is Pakistan’s war or it is being forced on Pakistan. The subject of the discussion should be: what our national interests’ demand?  As long as the government persists with framing the issue in the context of the global war on terror, the issue would remain divisive. People all over the world are distancing from the GWOT. The current US administration’s abuse of the term GWOT has made it synonymous with the cultural war against the Muslims. The repeated mention of the clash of civilization, the crude invocation of the crusades, calling Iraqi resistance–terrorism, and the hounding and bullying of the Muslims in the Western media over the last seven years has toughened resistance to the idea of participating in a cause that is so heavily tied with the US aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan. The decline of U.S. credibility is hampering the progress on the FATA issue in Pakistan.

The government would have a hard time overcoming both emotional or realist objections, unless it is able to effectively demonstrate to the people that there are many distinctions between the situation in FATA and some other places.

Making this case is not all that hard. The Pakistanis have learned many things over the last several years. They have seen the humiliations of the nation, they have seen the falling opinions about Pakistan throughout the world and they are now more conscious of the enormous mistakes made in the past. The previous regime and the way it operated have given people a strong sense of right and wrong. The reaction to the dismissal of the Chief Justice finally proved once and for all that Pakistanis are looking for justice and are ready to stand up for the truth. While the PPP government vacillated on the Chief Justice issue, transparency on FATA is vital. Rationalizing and leveling with the people are the keys to garner support.

There is no ambiguity now about the fact that the Pakistani decision to interfere in Afghanistan were the prime reasons. However, what aced all other reasons was the doctrine of Strategic Depth. The doctrine placed against the ground realities in Pakistan, appears to have more holes than Swiss cheese. A good faith discussion on the doctrine would benefit the people. An unconfirmed availability of fissionable material in Afghanistan might also be a factor in the decision. The implausible shortsightedness at the top in 1978 to a great deal hurt Pakistani national interests. A course correction was needed after the Soviets left Afghanistan but the involvement intensified even further. However, there is more in the history then just the Pakistani mistakes. after the leftists’ takeover in 1978 deeply impacted subsequent events in the area. The ideology and the influx of the refugees in

Afghanistan never in the history had and still does not have any economic base to survive on its own. As long as the Achaemenids and the Greeks controlled large areas, the Ghaznavids, the Ghorids, and the Durranis kept on plundering and conquering the neighboring territories, the current Afghanistan survived economically and was relatively peaceful.

From the Mid 19th century on, the Afghan State was kept afloat by the British subsidies.

When the Indian independence struggle intensified, Afghanistan stepped up efforts to reclaim NWFP, FATA and parts of Balochistan lost to the Sikhs and the British in the 19th century principally for the economic survival. The relatively well off, fertile, and arable NWFP offered a hope to replace the British subsidies for the economic survival of the Afghan state. AfghanistanPakistan’s national interests, if they do not account for these realities. actively supported Faqir Ipi in FATA and political groups in both NWFP and Balochistan to position itself favorably with the Pushtoons. The persistent refusal by the successive afghan governments to accept Durand Line as the permanent borders should be looked at in the right background. Ignore these facts at your own peril. Analysts would fail to highlight

In the recent history, the drought and the famine in 1972-73 brought King Zahir Shah down. The drought in 1997-2001 forced the Taliban to ignore the poppy crop and when they tried to control it, they lost support–one of the main reasons of fast retreat in 2001.

The dwindling support of Karzai and the rise of the Taliban in Afghanistan now are directly related with the international pressure to curtail the poppy crop. The poppy crop is a major source of reliable income for the Afghanistan peasantry. Any afghan government that would attempt to curtail that would lose support instantly.

The constant changes in the strategies, the rivalries between the players in the Capital, and the domestic politics exigencies make the US policies in Afghanistan perceptibly overweening. However, a deep analysis would reveal and reinforce the American Vertigo scenarios. Still, the elephant in the room has to be accounted for. US may be weary of fighting in Afghanistan but it would continue to maintain its presence in the area by forging new alliances with different groups. Its new ally could very well be some breakaway Taliban group.

The continued insurgency in FATA, now extended to parts of NWFP creates conditions that would allow some groups to strengthen their positions for a future unification of the Pushtoon speaking areas. With NWFP and FATA joining in, the chances of economic viability of any such area would increase manifold. That is where the Taliban role in the area is of prime concern.

FATA has been in a state of semi-war for the last thirty years. Especially the last seven years of intense war like conditions in the area have contributed to the collapse the traditional cultural, tribal, and familial relations. The tribal areas lack any infrastructure for remedies. Residents have abandoned their fields; number of jobless is on the rise. Many villages have already been abandoned by its residents; some residents are in the process of moving from the vulnerable areas. The increasing numbers of jobless youth provide perfect environments for the Taliban recruitment. This is a replica of South American guerrilla movements where uneducated and unemployed youth from the countryside joined the insurgencies for obscure reasons they did not understand. The Taliban make the religious pitch; provide opportunities to youth to assert power, and promise financial rewards to help out the already strapped parents, brothers and sisters. In a collapsing social structure militants’ numbers swell up fast.

The Pakistani Taliban is not an ideological but an opportunistic anarchic group. Unlike the afghan Taliban, they do not have a country to fight for nor do they have deep ideological roots and a history of struggle to qualify as legitimate holy warriors. The farrago of Sharia is just a cover to step up recruitment to create anarchy in FATA and NWFP. The FATA is already conservative and deeply religious. The Taliban Sharia just means removal of all schools and entertainment outlets in favor of Madrassah and Jihad.

The Taliban like groups can be easily manipulated by many interested parties. The most likely manipulators could be the Afghan Taliban and some foreign groups. They encourage insurgency in Pakistan to loosen the state structure by spreading lawlessness. With the anarchy spreading to the settled areas, state would lose the apparatus to maintain the physical integrity of the country. The Taliban appears to be a classical separatist group!

With international forces on Pakistani borders, Pakistan needs to manage the area to safeguard its legitimate borders. The Taliban has become a vehicle for the disruptive forces that intend to break up the country. How is it not in our National Interest to deal with the Taliban effectively?

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13 responses to “The Taliban and Our National Interest!

  1. Majumdar

    HP sain,

    Well written, it is a pleasure reading you. But would appreciate your insights on the following:

    1. Is there any one Taliban -or a collection of groups largely united- or completely disparate and even mutually hostile entities?
    2. Who funds and arms the Taliban? And its various factions.
    3. Finally, what do the Taliban hope to achieve- Islamise the whole of Pak, unite with Afghanistan in a single Pushtoon state or carve out warlordships where satraps can grow wealthy thru varied activities like opium, smuggling and trade?

    Regards

  2. ferozk

    HP

    A very informative article. I am forwarding this to a few friends so that they can better understand the threads of the regional politics.

    Ciao

  3. Hossp

    Couple of changes are needed:
    The para starting with
    “There is no ambiguity now about the fact that the Pakistani decision to interfere in Afghanistan were the prime reasons.”
    has formatting error.

    It should have been:
    There is no ambiguity now about the fact that the Pakistani decision to interfere in Afghanistan after the leftists’ takeover in 1978 deeply impacted subsequent events in the area. The ideology and the influx of the refugees in Pakistan were the prime reasons. However, what aced all other reasons was the doctrine of Strategic Depth. The doctrine placed against the ground realities in Pakistan, appears to have more holes than Swiss cheese. A good faith discussion on the doctrine would benefit the people. An unconfirmed availability of fissionable material in Afghanistan might also be a factor in the decision. The implausible shortsightedness at the top in 1978 to a great deal hurt Pakistani national interests. A course correction was needed after the Soviets left Afghanistan but the involvement intensified even further. However, there is more in the history then just the Pakistani mistakes.

    This para has been cutoff, reposted here:

    From the Mid 19th century on, the Afghan State was kept afloat by the British subsidies.
    When the Indian independence struggle intensified, Afghanistan stepped up efforts to reclaim NWFP, FATA and parts of Balochistan lost to the Sikhs and the British in the 19th century principally for the economic survival. The relatively well off, fertile, and arable NWFP offered a hope to replace the British subsidies for the economic survival of the Afghan state. Afghanistan actively supported Faqir Ipi in FATA and political groups in both NWFP and Balochistan to position itself favorably with the Pushtoons. The persistent refusal by the successive afghan governments to accept Durand Line as the permanent borders should be looked at in the right background. Ignore these facts at your own peril. Analysts would fail to highlight Pakistan’s national interests, if they do not account for these realities.

  4. Hossp

    Mujamdar
    1. Is there any one Taliban
    More than one group. Every group is responsible for their own area and that makes the situation even more dangerous.
    2. Who funds and arms the Taliban?
    Various intelligences, Poopy crop, At lower level: kidnapping and even Bhatta.
    3. Finally, what do the Taliban hope to achieve-
    I think most groups just want to continue criminal activities. In Sindh some Dacoits claimed fighting for democracy in 1983-84. Mostly they were involved in kidnapping and Bhatta.
    We still don’t know who controls the Talibans in Afghanistan and that is really shameful. There is no way they can act without some foreign assistance. Are they controlled by ISI
    or some other agencies, we don’t know.

    Feroz,
    It is nice to hear from you. We certainly can use more input from you.

  5. Majumdar

    HP sain,

    Thanks.

    We still don’t know who controls the Talibans in Afghanistan

    Well, if there are many independent outfits, the implications are clear- each foreign agency wud have its own favourite outfit and the loyalties could be shifting from time to time

    Regards

    PS: Hope to see this on chowk soon.

  6. Hossp

    No it will not show up on Chowk!

  7. ferozk

    HP

    Not sure what input you are suggesting, but will throw my two cents…

    I tend to agree with you that with the involvement of various intelligence outfits inside Afghanistan, the mess is more tangled than it comes across in the pedestrian reporting of the media. I was really interested to see the appointment of Ahmed Rashid and Nawaz Shuja as advisors to CENTCOM. Rashid’s thesis to seek a solution in Afghanistan that involves all the regional actors is a sound one and if CENTCOM follows up on it, maybe they will realize that there is no military solution to this mess.

    Hate to say it, but Afghanistan will be settled at the cost of satisfying all the interests of all the non-Afghans interest groups at the expense of Afghans themselves. The best solution is to leave Afghanistan alone to its own devices and not to intervene in its affairs for a few generations. 🙂

    Ciao

  8. Hossp

    Feroz,
    Both were working with the US for sometime now they just made it official. There is lot of confusion in the US policy makers on the Afghan issue. I have not read Ahmed Rashid’s idea of involving all regional actors so I can’t comment on that but generally, I think it will muddy the waters even more. Only Pakistan, US, and Afghanistan are party to the this conflict and other actor(s) would not be helpful. This sounds like another attempt to keep the issue on the broiler.
    The real solution is forcing the Pak army to move in to FATA and subdue all criminals. All other solutions appear to shield the Pak army.
    I think for our sinister purposes the army should get shaken up in FATA or it will turn against the civilians again. So we need to push the Pak army in to FATA.
    If the US makes a deal with the Taliban–also a possibility– civilian structure in Pakistan is doomed for good. Plus there is nothing to stop the army and the right wing to turn loose on Pakistanis and establish an Islamic state. That would certainly mean the US, India, and China making necessary stops in Pakistan to take care of the nukes. Just think of what would that mean for the country and the moderates.

  9. Terrorism…Reviving Khilafat

    When Taliban were given
    Takht e Kabul…
    By Our policy makers they havent realised that…making these people familiar with “Iqtidaar ki Ghulam Gaqdishein”
    will cause problem for Us in the future…
    Bcoz when Taliban had their ruled in Afghanistan,Ulemas and Students from the Pakistani Madressas were visiting and perform duties at the check posts there for the sake of Sawab…when they had returned from there they were much impressed by the crowded mosques of the almost all bearded prayers….They compared it with Khilafat Rashidaa and monocular Mullah Umar with the great Umar,2nd Khalifa…
    This all was under the Pakistani Umbrella…
    When Taliban were attacked by the US forces…I had seen these peoples weeping like childs…..
    US act of demolishing the sacred Khilafat…is an act not forgiven by these peoples…and the support from Pakistan in this hatred mission is unforgiveable…
    How this wound can be healed….
    No way except the change of mind about the religious myths of Khilafat…When Taliban were running the Sacred Khilafat….
    Molana Fazlur Rehman was asked of the the way Taliban had adopted to get
    Takht e Kabul…
    He clearly said that the same way cannot be utilized to get powers in Pakistan…why?? He thought situation is different in Pakistan…In Afghanistan there was civil war…
    I think Taliban or their planners had agreed his view…so they first are creating a civil was here then…These Messiahs will come to eliminate the civil war….God Bless Us..
    The people who had disgust for America…will not love the rulers who they think are american allies…So let the Taliban Come and prevail us….Are we coming to the conclusion…
    I think not…bcoz
    people had grown hatred and disgust for these terrorists….thats the hopeful picture…

  10. Sa'ad Abbasi

    “With international forces on Pakistani borders, Pakistan needs to manage the area to safeguard its legitimate borders. The Taliban has become a vehicle for the disruptive forces that intend to break up the country. How is it not in our National Interest to deal with the Taliban effectively?”

    The above article correctly displays the charachter of the Pakistani Taliban. And if we go by the same definition and using the Sharia’s terminology,then the Pakistani Taliban are a “Fitna” and cause of “Fisad” in the land. If there is a a legitimate cause of Jihad in present day Pakistan, I believe, its against these Talibans.

  11. Sa'ad Abbasi

    Aliarqum: Khilafat is not sacred neither is it a myth. Khilafat is a political agenda,albeit a confused one. In modern parlance the khilafat represents the first and the only Republic in Islamic history, and when a Muslim yearns for Khilafat he is basically yearning for establishment of a republic on the same lines. A republic where democracy, justice, service to the hummanity by the rulers and rule of law prevails.
    How then the establishment of that republic any different from anyother ideology? Was democracy a myth in a monarchist, totalitarian europe of Mitternech? When the Americans rose against the British monarchy were they chasing a myth?

  12. Aliarqam

    No difference in pakistani,Afghan or somewhere else Taliban…its a mentality not an organization…

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