Dr Muhammad Farooq Khan (RIP)

by Aasem Bakhshi

Dr Farooq Khan The news is just coming in that Dr. Muhammad Farooq Khan, a renowned writer, columnist, religious scholar and Vice Chancellor of Swat Islamic University, has been murdered (along with his assistant) by unknown gunmen as he was coming out of his clinic in Mardan. May Allah bless his departed soul. Here is an obituary from a local TV Channel website:

Dr. Muhammad Farooq Khan is a recognized writer, columnist, and intellectual throughout the country. He is also known as a religious scholar and competent TV compare. He was born at a village, in the district of Swabi. He obtained his elementary education at his hometown. Then he joined Cadet College Hasanabdal, and later on the Cadet College Kohat. After having acquired the degree in medicine, he decided to specialize in psychiatry. He established his private practice in Mardan. Some of his works include “Pakistan and the Twenty First Century (Urdu)”, “The Struggle for Islamic Revolution”, and “What is Islam”. God has bestowed upon him the quality of presenting his propositions in simple language and clarity of style.

Dr. Khan was associated with Al-Mawrid, an Islamic research organization lead by Javed Ahmed Ghamidi . He gained media limelight and became a center of controversy for his allegedly unorthodox views on permissibility of music. Most of his works can be downloaded from his website. Clipping from the talk show where he shared his views on music is linked below:

Its one of those days when it feels really impossible to breathe in the land of the pure and sadness overcomes the desire to remain optimistic. When intellect is not tolerated, disagreements are settled through bullets, and mockery of the law becomes a convention, the society seems to be quickly approaching towards self annihilation. Our cities have indeed become worst than wildest of the jungles. Reminds me of this sad, yet beautiful Urdu poem by Zehra Nigah (a transliteration can be found here and please share any English translations if you have):

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36 responses to “Dr Muhammad Farooq Khan (RIP)

  1. D Asghar

    Aasem Bhai, May ALLAH (SWT) grant him best places in the Paradise. Aameen.

    “Nashtar ab iss sheher main yoon sar e aam huey hain

    Lagta hai keh jaisey yeh zakhm barayey naam huey hain

    Lahu sey rang ker hum apney hi dar o deewar ko

    Poochtey hain sub sey keh kyun naakaam huey hain”

    My deepest condolences. These lines are spontaneous and my humble apologies if not up to the mark.

  2. AA Khalid

    An immense loss to Pakistan, one of the finest scholars with a sharp intellect and compassion to match, his work was exceptionally brave and articulate. His work was constantly thought provoking, full of new ideas and it was clearly evident he was a man who loved diversity and sought creative synthesis. On a personal level, Mr Khan’s writing always gave me hope that in Pakistan there were still religious scholars of deep conscience.

    He was a man who sought to build bridges between cultures and religions. His work showed that a man of faith can also embrace democracy and liberty, and indeed one cannot have faith without freedom. He was a rarity in Pakistan. An intellectually and morally responsible and articulate religious scholar. He spoke out against terrorism and radicalism clearly and thoughtfully.

    I urge all those who can to read his work which Muhammad Farooq Khan generously made freely available on his website in both English and Urdu.

    It is shocking that those who wish to use that most precious of God’s gifts, reason are being targeted in this way. It is a tragedy and truly sad when a nation’s intellectuals and thinkers are hounded, intimidated and killled.

    The Prophet PBUH said:

    The ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr

  3. Adil Shah

    I strongly condemn the assasination of Dr. Farooq Khan.He was a great asset of Pakistan.
    According to him!
    ” My Vision and Mission
    I am humanist, Muslim, Pakistani and a Pakhtun. To strive for the well being of the whole humanity, to uphold the cause of Muslim Ummah and to exalt the dignity of Pakistan and Pukhtoons is my mission. There is no contradiction between their interests, provided every issue is seen with justice and fair play.

    In my opinion there are ten basic values which should be honored by every individual, community, country and the whole mankind. These essential and fundamental values are:
    Human equality and democratic culture
    Justice
    Honesty
    Merit
    Hard work and thorough struggle
    Law abiding mentality
    Wisdom and patience
    Education
    Health
    Strong and well-coordinated welfare institutions for the down trodden classes.
    It is not possible for me to address the whole humanity so I address Muslim Ummah, Pakistan and Pukhtoons. In my opinion the degraded and helpless position of all the above three communities is because of the lack of the above ten fundamental values. We lagged behind in fulfilling and abiding all these values. Without honoring these values, we will not be able to survive as prestigious communities and nations.

    The Muslims usually blame others for their plight, but in my view the internal factors are much more important than the external factors and once we overcome our weaknesses and shortcomings then the external world will become favorable slowly and steadily.

    Development and dignity of Pakistan and the Ummah is based on the efforts to achieve these ideals and standards. It is very clear that a thorough struggle is needed in this regard. This struggle should be totally free from any kind of violence, sentimentalism and provocative rhetoric.

    I always strictly follow the teachings of Quran, Sunnah, and my conscience in pondering over all the collective issues and problems facing us. In my opinion, the Muslim Ummah needs a comprehensive discussion and consensus on the following issues:
    Status of Women in Islamic Society
    The real instructions of Islam regarding Jihad and Qital
    The true perspective of Islamic teachings in crimes and punishment
    Islamic instructions regarding relations between Muslims and Non-Muslims
    I have written a few books on these Issues e.g.:
    Jihad, Qital aur Aalam-e-Islam (Urdu)
    Islam Kya hai?(Urdu)
    Islam and Women (Urdu & English)
    Dialogue with the West (English)
    Kashmir Issue (Urdu & English)
    Ikkisween Saddi aur Pakistan (Urdu)
    Jadeed Zehan Kay Shubhat Aur Islam Ka Jawab (Urdu)
    Hudood aur Qisas wa Diyat Ordinance Ka Tanqeedi Jaiza (Urdu)
    In my opinion Muslim states must proceed according to the following four important points.
    To bring democratic culture in Muslim states.
    To resolve all the disputes and conflicts through peaceful means.
    To dominate and inculcate the above mentioned ten basic collective values in their states.
    To make a serious and conscious advance in the field of science and technology.
    I have written extensively on the above issues.
    This is my vision and the struggle for this purpose is the mission of my life.”

    May Allah rest his soul in peace.Ameen!

  4. AZW

    Can Pakistan wake up and see that its very soul; the intelligentsia, the literaries, the very people who go against the grain, call out the regressive elements among us are eliminated, one by one.

    We cannot fight this war if we are in denial. The militants are out to eliminate all who call these militant ideologies into question. Pakistan cannot fail its own by burying her head in sand at all times.

    May Dr. Farooq Khan’s soul rest in peace. As per AA Khalid’s advice, I will download as much of Dr. Khan’s work. I owe this at the least to this brave man.

  5. Tilsim

    It’s a huge loss. Innalillai wa inna aleihi rajaoon. May his soul rest in peace.

    What more can one say when people such as him are victims of hate. As AZW said, we should study his works and strive to keep his legacy alive.

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  7. Vijay Goel

    What a beautiful Poem !! May Allah take him in his arms and rest his soul. Amen.

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  9. nourdu

    I can’t understand a word of what he is saying. Is there a translation available in simple language or English.

  10. M.Dawood Saleem

    Innalillahe-wa-innaileiherajeon. Once again, a very big loss not only to pakistani nation,but to the whole islamic world. There was nothing wrong in his preachings, nothing against any sect, instead he always taught islam in a simple way, in the light of Quran and Hadees. He was an impressive islamic scholar with high command on subjects. We are so sad upon his death. May ALLAH shower his blessings upon him and his family.AAMIN.

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  12. YLH

    He was a voice of reason and sanity. And now that voice has been silenced.

  13. YLH

    PS: Anyone who wants to understand just how precarious our position is should go read capricious’s blog indexed above…

    The author of the said link is a real kutay ka bacha and his post shows why.

  14. thanks YLH
    so nice of you…
    You are my best friend on internet.. :))

  15. Farah ali

    It is such a big shock! And what a great loss to all of us!I was an avid viewer of his talk show in the month of Ramazan.He impressed me with his unassuming mannerism,clear focus and the ability to nudge the discussion in the right direction.
    We are such an unfortunate lot!We kill the best among us and then beseech Allah to send us a messiah….Please God save us from our own deeds.

  16. Hidayat

    He was one of the few moderate sholar of Pakistan

  17. He was one of few dishonest and liar scholars like ghamdi who tell you that they have discovered a new meaning contrary to the obvious meaning of authentic text which is preserved with utmost care since almost thousand year and they claim that no one understood the real meanings of Islamic injunctions…..you can call it moderation but i call a forgery with Islam….
    you don’t want to follow Islam …no problem…
    who will come to force you? but please do not try to corrupt the Islam just because your are raised under glitters of modern global civilization and your modern mind is unable to understand the “extremism” of Islam.

  18. no-communal

    @Jawad Khan

    OK, fine, but why would you rejoice if somebody is murdered for just holding a different view ? On your blog (indexed above) you say you are not sad this time.

  19. Its not difference of opinion….its a simple & plain forgery..
    difference of opinion is that one believes or doesn’t believe contrary to your beliefs and faith.
    Dr.Farooq Muhammed Khan was trying to set a belief system which look like Islamic but in essence perfectly compatible and palatable for the world masters…that is the only reason which made me say that i am not sad.

  20. @Jawad

    He was one of few dishonest and liar scholars like ghamdi….

    I think we have no way of knowing the inner most intentions of somebody else so clearly as you seem to assert.

    a new meaning contrary to the obvious meaning of authentic text which is preserved with utmost care since almost thousand year

    In that case shouldn’t we have a single exegesis of Quran like Quran itself? Why so many scholars take trouble of interpreting it again and again in their times. Even companions (e.g. Ibn Abbas and Abdullah Ibn Masud) and their students (like Akrmah or Mujahid) disagreed in various interpretations and their discussions and disagreements were interpreted time and again by later students and scholars of Quran. Your assertions regarding a single monolithic understanding of text is not only far-fetched but an amazing innovation itself.

    they claim that no one understood the real meanings of Islamic injunctions…

    I think nobody has claimed so and its merely your inference. Rendering a different interpretation does not entail all the previous interpretations null and void. A coming student of religion will examine all available interpretations and may take or reject any. Trust me, this has been happening till now among most prestigious of scholars.

    Dr.Farooq Muhammed Khan was trying to set a belief system which look like Islamic but in essence perfectly compatible and palatable for the world masters…that is the only reason which made me say that i am not sad.

    With all due respect, I sincerely think you should reconsider your stance. As muslims we should not mistrust anyone’s intentions as we have no access to anyone else’s innermost thoughts and convictions. Being happy on someone’s murder is an excess which is against the teachings of all the religions of the world.

    May Allah guide us all.

  21. Sadia Hussain

    It is vital to develop an understanding of militant mindset on what are the factors that alienate them from the society and how these individuals are indoctrinated with misinformation. The citizens need to counter the Taliban apologists and their baseless propaganda. The rehabilitated militant’s can set examples for others.

  22. Humanity

    @Sadia Hussain “The citizens need to counter the Taliban apologists and their baseless propaganda. The rehabilitated militant’s can set examples for others.”

    The issue runs deeper than countering the Taliban apologists. The problem started with mixing state with religion. The legalized religious discrimination and division enable the self proclaimed saviors of the religion to enforce the shariah as they see fit. The misguided choices and straying from the founding principles have transformed the original vision of a secular state into a hellish nightmare. It is time to address the root cause instead of treating the symptoms of the fatal disease of bigotry and intolerance.

    The 63 years long experiment of warping the original vision into a twisted “Pakistan ka matlab kia ..” mantra has failed and it must come to an end. Jinnah’s mandate of August 11, 1947 is a time tested, sound and sensible strategy and should be adopted as the basis of the constitution. The nation must initiate a hard reboot of the system with a fresh constitution and with unity, faith, and discipline if it wants to exist and emerge as an honorable entity.

  23. Ummi

    @Jawad:

    Zahir hay.YLH jaisey haram khoro ko har wu mulla pasand aye ga jo in ki haramzadgi aur zalalat ko sahi qarar day. Tu ye kio na matam karay?

  24. Humanity

    The vemon and hatred being condoned is proof positive of the stray mindset. The spirit of the message of peace and mercy for humanity has been mutilated. What remain are the rituals fit only for zombies and savages.

    May people find the courage to free themselves from the strangle hold of the delusional keepers of the gates of heaven. Ameen.

  25. @Aesim Bakhshi,
    Sorry for late response.But it was not fault.Due to some unknown reason my comments were not showing up in this forum.You said;

    “I think we have no way of knowing the inner most intentions of somebody else so clearly as you seem to assert”.
    ————————————————–
    yes there is a way to know these things….ACTIONS.
    Is it too hard to guess the “inner most intentions” of a man with a gun in hand inside a bank?
    __________________________________

    “In that case shouldn’t we have ……..Why so many scholars take trouble of interpreting i…….Even companions (e.g. Ibn Abbas and Abdullah Ibn Masud) and their students (like Akrmah or Mujahid) disagreed……..”
    —————————————————–

    Sahaba kiram (ra) aimma e arba’a and scholars of earlier days of islam disagreed with each other on details(firo’a) not on principals..and one thing they NEVER did was to interpret any thing contrary to the word of any authentic Hadith.No one ever advocated the desegregation unlike your favorite scholar.
    Most of the scholars in Islam interpreted with in the boundaries of Islam and according to Quran and Hadith.
    _________________________________

    “I think nobody has claimed so and its merely your inference……….. happening till now among most prestigious of scholars.”
    ——————————————————
    What i know about the practice of the most prestigious scholars is saying that “if you found a Hadith negating my opinion,throw my opinion on the wall.

    _________________________________

    “With all due respect,…………………… against the teachings of all the religions of the world.”
    —————————————————
    With all due respect i must say to please accept the Islam as it is. This is not only a divine revelation but also a test for any one who believe…many things sound barbaric and extreme to modern human mind but in reality it is in the benefit of mankind. If you allow a 4 year old boy to enter in operation theater, he will be terrorized for the rest of his life because what he will see is group of people with the mask tearing and cutting a human body with knives.Same is true for Islam.
    This world is not a infinite thing.Our lives is even much much shorter. Do not fail in this test by changing the questions rather giving a right answer.
    best regards

  26. Heavy Petting

    @drjawwadkhan

    You are entitled to what you believe. So was Dr. Khan.
    Was it right to kill him just because some disagreed with him?
    Is this what God would want?
    Isn’t He the creator of all, with all their virtues and vices?
    Would he be pleased with his own creation being destroyed?
    Wouldn’t one spare a thought about Dr. Khan’s loved ones, he may have had a family, a loving wife, children to look after?
    Do these faith-based murderers have any humanity left in them? Or are they just scripture-bound robots, machines with human body but no heart?
    Religion devoid of basic humanity is not religion. And you condone this murder?

  27. hayyer

    Dr. Jawad Khan.

    “With all due respect i must say to please accept the Islam as it is. This is not only a divine revelation but also a test for any one who believe…many things sound barbaric and extreme to modern human mind but in reality it is in the benefit of mankind. If you allow a 4 year old boy to enter in operation theater, he will be terrorized for the rest of his life because what he will see is group of people with the mask tearing and cutting a human body with knives.Same is true for Islam.”

    That is an extraordinary metaphor for Islam. As a friend remarked-Is mankind like a four year old?

    Are you saying that blood, gore and cutting up up bodies is the real face of Islam? Is killing people, crashing planes into buildings and teenagers blowing themselves up dictated by the essential hermeneutics of Islam? Is the divinity shaping our ends necessarily a bloody one in your school of thought, and for our own good? According to you Muslims who disagree deserve death; how about the rest of us non believers. Do we need to be eliminated too to make God happy?

  28. @Jawwad

    Is it too hard to guess the “inner most intentions” of a man with a gun in hand inside a bank?

    I am afraid that’s a very dangerous and fallacious analogy if you are trying to draw similitude between robbing and killing with interpreting scripture differently. The latter can always be disagreed on pure academic grounds.

    Even for non muslims, the Quranic ethics of discussion, debate and disagreement are very clear; for instance (16:125):
    …and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance

    And this is even for those with whom our disagreements are of far superior nature. As for robbing and killing, Quran is again very clear. Please do not resort to far-fetched and wrong simulacrums.

    one thing they NEVER did was to interpret any thing contrary to the word of any authentic Hadith. No one ever advocated the desegregation unlike your favorite scholar.

    Brother, that is another loaded contention on two grounds. First, the gigantic hadith corpus and the intricate development of hadith sciences itself stands as a proof that there was never a monolithic Utopian agreement among scholars regarding interpretation. If that is so, there was never a need for Bukhari and Muslim after arrangement of Malik’s Muwatta. Hadith sciences were developed and improved by later scholars and so are the methods of Quranic exegesis. On a different note, even people like Shah Wali Ullah were declared innovators when he translated Quran in Persian as there is no hadith regarding permissibility of translating Quran into other languages.

    Secondly, how do you guess my intentions; just because I thought it appropriate to write an obituary for murder of an innocent scholar. You can easily see my disagreements with Ghamdi’s school and my views of hadith on my blog. Please do not read too much into people’s intentions.

    Most of the scholars in Islam interpreted with in the boundaries of Islam and according to Quran and Hadith.

    But you would agree that there are no exhaustive lists or are there? Is it very hard rephrasing that all of them interpreted according to their understanding of Quran and Sunnah. I invite you to read Boundaries of Theological Tolerance in Islam (Faisal al-Tafriqa) by Imam Ghazali or would you jump to doubt his intentions too.

    What i know about the practice of the most prestigious scholars is saying that “if you found a Hadith negating my opinion,throw my opinion on the wall.

    So throw whatever you like on the wall. I hope they never said that whoever, in your opinion, disagrees with authentic hadith (according to your criteria or your favorite muhaddith), kill him or be happy when he is murdered by transgressors and criminals.

    May Allah guide you and guide us all.

    regards and salam

  29. Tilsim

    @ Aasem Bakhshi

    Thank you for your posts. I learnt from them and wish to express my gratitude.

  30. “I am afraid that’s a very dangerous and fallacious analogy”
    What i was trying to say is simple and you just picked the “atmosphere” of the analogy.
    No sir….When you say that my interpretation or I should call it Reinterpretation and redefinition is above the recognized standards i.e. Quran and Hadith.Then my dear friend allow others to “interpret” your action.
    ok here is less “dangerous and fallacious” analogy. I own a grocery store i have a weighing scale and i have standard weights piled up beside the scale BUT i put some stones in a scale pen at the time when costumer buys some commodity. What will be the reaction of the customer? will he not reject my action? What answer shall i give? That my stones are more correct and precise than the standard weights. Doesn’t it sound ridiculous? more importantly isn’t fair for customer to guess my “inner most intention” because of my action?

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    “Even for non muslims, the Quranic ethics of discussion, debate and disagreement are very clear; for instance (16:125):
    …and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance
    Moreover, this is even for those with whom our disagreements are of far superior nature. As for robbing and killing, Quran is again very clear. Please do not resort to far-fetched and wrong simulacrums”

    It seems that only guy using fallacious analogy and wrong simulacrums is you. I am unable to understand that how an injunction or a principle for treating a non-Muslim in a special circumstances, could be applied as fundamental principle of Islamic society. Can Islamic society allow its citizen to “Do what thou Wilt”? In Islamic society, Muslims are more bound to follow the law than non muslims. Here is one more dangerous but not fallacious analogy. Consider a muslim in islamic state invites people and says that I disagree with you that Prophet Muhammed (saw) is a last prophet in Islam.Can you tell me what should be the reaction of the Islamic state in this scenario.
    Bottom line
    There must be boundaries and limitations of disagreement in a islamic/muslim society.

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    “Brother, that is another loaded contention on two grounds. First, the gigantic hadith corpus and the intricate development of hadith sciences itself stands as a proof that there was never a monolithic Utopian agreement among scholars regarding interpretation. If that is so, there was never a need for Bukhari and Muslim after arrangement of Malik’s Muwatta”

    I am sorry..are you telling me that Islam came on the people who lived 2000 meters above in the air ? and Islam is received as “message in bottle” by the people on ground? or people did not know about the hadith and people of narration and their level of honesty and trustworthiness.
    Why you are stretching the issue upto the technicality of compilation of hadith? The fact is Nabi e Kareem (saw) transformed the society on diametrical angles. People listened any thing from the Prophet(saw) and made it part of their lives. When people listened that Alcohol became forbidden, they flushed their wines on the street, they broke their pots of wine and even some Sahaba (ra) vomited .In that type of society how one can believe that coming generations were confused about the issue of hijab, music and jihad etc? A society which memorizes the details of their horses up to 70 generations could possibly forget what their beloved prophet(saw) advised them about halal and haram.
    Again i would say that my disgustingness for the “new age” scholars is not due to some personal reasons. I believe that they are trying to bring a change just because their standards are derived from social values of western civilization not Quran and hadith.

    “Is it very hard rephrasing that all of them interpreted according to their understanding of Quran and Sunnah. I invite you to read Boundaries of Theological Tolerance in Islam (Faisal al-Tafriqa) by Imam Ghazali or would you jump to doubt his intentions too”

    Then i would recommend you to read his other book “The Revival of the Religious Sciences” especially the guidelines and advices for the women. Kindly do not bring Ghazali into the discussion. He was a great mind. His work in different fields like philosophy, logic, tassuwuf etc is remarkable but I trust Aimma e arba’a and scholars related with their religion. It would be better if you give me the references of Aimma e arba’a and scholar related with any of four religions.

    “So throw whatever you like on the wall. I hope they never said that whoever, in your opinion, disagrees with authentic hadith (according to your criteria or your favorite muhaddith), kill him or be happy when he is murdered by transgressors and criminals”

    I would be more happier and satisfied if we have a law to stop new age scholars misinterpreting Quran and Hadith

    Best regards

  31. @jawwad

    I own a grocery store i have a weighing scale and i have standard weights piled up beside the scale BUT i put some stones in a scale pen at the time when costumer buys some commodity. What will be the reaction of the customer? will he not reject my action? What answer shall i give? That my stones are more correct and precise than the standard weights. Doesn’t it sound ridiculous? more importantly isn’t fair for customer to guess my “inner most intention” because of my action?

    Not only it is another wrong analogy but also invoked within a set of wrong presumptions, obviously leading to wrong conclusions. For facilitating discussion, let me reiterate that we are talking about judging scholars’ intentions based on their interpretation of Quran and Sunnah. I am just proposing that rather than judging their intentions and passing personal judgments, we should discuss Quran and Hadith on its merit. Its obvious that only when we are unable to do that, we hide behind malicious implications of other peoples’ persumed intentions.

    It seems that only guy using fallacious analogy and wrong simulacrums is you.

    Would you please care to expound how the Ayah I quoted fails to deliver the intended import of my argument. I am just trying to remind you the ethics of debate and discussion and not judging people’s intentions. Moreover, it does not indicate remotely, at least to me, the permissibility of boisterous celebrations when the person with whom you disagree over interpretation of Quran gets murdered. Please read it again in this perspective.

    Of course, I can provide you more references regarding impermissibility of judging people’s intentions. Remember, what Prophet (pbuh) said when a companion killed an opponent in the battle, who according to his (companion’s) judgment, was reciting the Shahadah in order to save his life.

    Read again, “thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance”. I am sorry its my bad; I should have highlighted this portion of Ayah before.

    Can Islamic society allow its citizen to “Do what thou Wilt”? In Islamic society, Muslims are more bound to follow the law than non muslims.

    I failed to see the point you are trying to make here. When I last checked, we were discussing about the intentions of Scholars, their interpretation of Quran and Sunnah and on what merits we should accept or reject them and whether we are allowed to become happy over their murder. However, if you want to discuss dynamics of an hypothetical Islamic society as a pure academic indulgence, I would love to recommend some good books.

    There must be boundaries and limitations of disagreement in a islamic/muslim society.

    Yes, indeed there are. Its called Ilm al-Ikhtalaf and I regularly blog about it. Here is the archive for you to consider. You can find lots of references there but again, aren’t we digressing?

    I am sorry..are you telling me that Islam came on the people who lived 2000 meters above in the air ? and Islam is received as “message in bottle” by the people on ground? or people did not know about the hadith and people of narration and their level of honesty and trustworthiness.

    No, apologies are all mine, I have obviously failed to make my point. I was just saying that Hadith sciences have a majestic history of development and believing it to be frozen in time at some point in past is sheer naive anachronism. If all the people always knew so surely about all the narrators of hadith, why would hadith scholars felt the need to devise methods for Jarah, Ta’adeel and judging the text and context of a particular report ascribed to Prophet. Or do you believe that these technical methods exist since eternity?

    Why you are stretching the issue upto the technicality of compilation of hadith?
    Because you are insinuating as if all the compilations of Hadith available today somehow popped up within a span of decade at some point in history. I for one am not trying to digress here my friend to technical intricacies. We have our own blogs for that.

    The fact is Nabi e Kareem (saw) transformed the society on diametrical angles. People listened any thing from the Prophet(saw) and made it part of their lives.

    Yeah, in approximately 23 years; and they questioned, interacted and asked for clarifications also. Remember, countless interrogative and relative adverbs in Quran: they ask you about what they should spend, they ask you about women, they ask you concerning spoils of war.

    When people listened that Alcohol became forbidden, they flushed their wines on the street, they broke their pots of wine and even some Sahaba (ra) vomited.

    There were all kinds of people in that society too, otherwise, there was no need to forbid alcohol in three different stages; one explicit prohibition should have been sufficed.

    Again i would say that my disgustingness for the “new age” scholars is not due to some personal reasons. I believe that they are trying to bring a change just because their standards are derived from social values of western civilization not Quran and hadith.

    You have all the right to be disgust and disagree; similarly try to concede a same right to others as well. Why not debate and discuss in best of ways.

    On a slightly different note, a large part of what you generalize as “Western Civilisation” is also Muslim and have been Muslim in history. Go check about Ibn Hazm and Ibn Rushd. I invite you to learn to see beauty in diversity rather than compartmentalization.

    Then i would recommend you to read his other book “The Revival of the Religious Sciences” especially the guidelines and advices for the women.

    Brother, I quoted Faisal al-Tafriqa to give you an idea of Islamic boundaries of theological tolerance. Why do you assume I disagree with you regarding what Ghazali has advised to women. Why this commotion and insecurity? At least, give me some benefit of doubt; just to settle your rumpus, I agree with what Ghazali has advised to women in Ihya. But again, ain’t we digressing?

    Kindly do not bring Ghazali into the discussion. He was a great mind. His work in different fields like philosophy, logic, tassuwuf etc is remarkable but I trust Aimma e arba’a and scholars related with their religion. It would be better if you give me the references of Aimma e arba’a and scholar related with any of four religions.

    So you don’t trust Ghazali without reading what I recommended from him and trust others without reading them too. Ok, references regarding what? theological tolerance? permissibility of ikhtilaf? Why just four of the Imams? Why not five, six, ten? Do you know Abu Yusuf disagreed with his teacher on some of the major issues concerning Islamic society at that time? Do you know Shafii disagreed with Malik on major issues like sources of sharia itself? Or would you consider difference on sources as minor; furoo, as you simplistically put it? What about Shia scholars? Do you trust them, and if not would you be as happy if they were murdered too? What about later scholars? Would you consider looking at Albani’s differences on some of the hadith compiled by Muslim? Would you pay heed to differences of Abu Hanifa with some of the most Sahih hadith? Please tell me what kind of references you require and I’ll be happy to provide them at earliest?

    But please remember what we are discussing for the benefit of all.

    regads and salam

  32. @Tilsim

    Thank you for your kind words. Indeed, all the good thoughts are from Allah.

    Best regards

  33. “Not only its another wrong analogy but its invoked within a set of wrong presumptions, obviously leading to wrong conclusions. For facilitating discussion, let me reiterate that we are talking about judging scholars’ intentions based on their interpretation of Quran and Sunnah. I am just proposing that rather than judging their intentions and passing personal judgments, we should discuss Quran and Hadith on its merit. Its obvious that only when we are unable to do that, we hide behind malicious implications of other peoples’ persumed intentions.”

    I am not judging any one author expressing himself in a unique but predictable way. I would again say if some one preaching an opinion contrary to the tawatur, and Ijma and present that as an Islamic opinion then the person should be condemned. We all know the favorite Islam bashing topics of the west and efforts of reinterpretation and redefinition by our new age scholars.we all can see the emergence of new age scholar, we all see how they are getting overwhelming media coverage.When i see the whole picture in the light of Cherryle Benard report of RAND CORPORATION. Along with the growth of new Global Modern civilization.The Picture becomes clear.
    They are criticizing on some thing and you try to change, It clearly means that you consider them right. It is a two plus two is equal to four kind of mathematics. No need for a higher intelligence and study.

    “On a slightly different note, a large part of what you generalize as “Western Civilisation” is also Muslim and have been Muslim in history. Go check about Ibn Hazm and Ibn Rushd. I invite you learn to to see beauty in diversity rather than compartmentalization.”
    The notion that Western civilization is a “muslim” civilization in a large part is amusing one. Why i should i refer to the books of Ibn Hazm and Ibn rushd of almost 1000 years ago(who lived in the darkest time of west) while i am watching closely the peak of modern global civilization ,its dynamics, goals and achievements in 2010. Kindly spend some time reading about the history of Europe, its current financial system, judicial system and political system and spend some time solving the mystery that why this glorious civilization is ever ready for war or support of wars (justified or unjustified).Why they spend billions and trillions of dollors in a war instead of feeding poor and hungry in Africa or Asia.
    Also keep an eye on the global treaties like trade agreements under WTO, NPT, security cooperation between countries etc, imminent globalization of almost every thing, Working of UN and its branches and its silence on war crimes against Muslims and other oppressed nations.I hope you are not talking about about the social system of western civilization and individual cultures, which is based on “Do what thou wilt” (ironically i saw many new age so called scholar selling this idea in negation of imposition of Islamic Shariyah)
    I spent some of my time observing global modern civilization carefully and i come to conclusion its based on one thing which is DECEPTION. and they are very successful by selling the idea that western civilization is a “muslim” civilization in “majority of its aspects”.

    references regarding what? theological tolerance? permissibility of ikhtilaf? Why just four of the Imams? Why not five, six, ten? Do you know Abu Yusuf disagreed with his teacher on some of the major issues concerning Islamic society at that time? Do you know Shafii disagreed with Malik on major issues like sources of sharia itself? Or would you consider difference on sources as minor; furoo, as you simplistically put it? What about Shia scholars? Do you trust them, and if not would you be as happy when they are murdered too? What about later scholars? Would you consider Albani’s differences on some of the hadith compiled by Muslim? Would you pay heed to differences of Abu Hanifa with some of the most Sahih hadith? Please tell me what kind of references you require and I’ll be happy to provide them at earliest?

    So many questions!🙂
    My dear i am asking you a very simple question and you are boastfully returned with so many questions.
    My question is “can any one interpret against the series of Sahih Ahadith with multiple narrators ( tawatur) on which diaspora of scholar agreed to conceive an Islamic injunction? That is what i am asking. Kindly tell me if there is any respected scholar in the history who ignored the series of Ahadith and interpreted according to his own “understanding” of Quran and Sunnah.

    I think we are going in a wrong direction.Instead of meddling in a difficult terrain of “differences between scholars and the reasons behind” which could be misleading and fruitless.Let us become more focus on the issue.The whole discussion started because like many others, i am not happy with the misinterpretation by Dr.Farooq Muhammed Khan on certain issues. Those issues in which we see many Quranic verses and many Sahih Ahadith constructing a not only a crystal clear Islamic injunction but also creating a specific kind of mind set and very special kind of culture and civilization.Hence the fundamental question is;
    can any one interpret against the clear and decisive order of Allah(swt) and Nabi e Kareem(saw)?
    or
    Can some one avoid the Sahih Ahadith, tawatur and ijma during interpretation?
    ( I am talking about series of Sahih Ahadith with multiple narrators, constructing a crystal clear Islamic injunction through affirmation on some places and negation on other places. Which is endorsed by the action of Sahab e Kiram and later on explained in similar fashion)

    There is lots of references from the Dr.Farooq’s own writing which proves my claim that Dr.Farooq Khan and Ghamdi tried to reinterperate certain issues according to the standards of modern global civilization.but because of time and space limitation i shall try to stick only on hijab issue.
    Dr.FAROOQ KHAN ON HIJAB
    To avoid any unnecessary expansion and confusion in the discussion let us examine Dr.Farooq’s opinion about hijab or social interaction of a women.As i already mention the opinion of Dr.Farooq Muhammed about hijab.My question is how it can be called as an opinion any way nearer to Islam?
    Dr.Farooq Khan wrote :
    “Thus men and women can have mutual contacts on purpose at their residences and public places according to the teachings of Islam. They can talk and exchange views. The two families can have friendly relations in a civilized manner. There should not be sexual excitement and a bold interaction. But there is no restriction upon their civilized social interaction; they may even dine together”
    “In the closest circle of a family there is no restriction on mutual contact and meetings. The surah al-Nur describes in detail the manners on meeting outside this circle. The first of these tells that it is obligatory for every man and woman to get him or herself introduced with the inhabitants of a house before entering it, confirm their willingness and pay regards to them. Obviously, this is a universal custom. The Quran says: “Believers, do not enter the dwellings of other people until you have asked their owners’ permission and wished them peace. (Al-Nur-24:27)
    Thus after having observed the initial manners of entering a house the visitor may sit down with the dweller.

    It is natural that men and women will talk mutually when they will meet at such places. It is, therefore, obligatory for men to wear civilized dress, have modesty in looks and avoid throwing bold and lusty glances towards women
    (Islam & Modern World – p/67-68)
    Ironically he also wrote on page 92 :
    “This instinctive sentiment is displayed in a Muslim society too. In a Muslim society there is no binding upon men and women to meet in places like educational institutions, hospitals, restaurants, offices and homes. It is, therefore, natural that they develop feelings of love and admiration for each other.”
    (Normal social interaction may convert into love….why love can’t be converted into adultery?)

    “the covering of head has not been emphasized directly in comparison to the covering of bosom. Thus it can be said that it is a good social custom but not a religions binding.”
    (Islam & Modern World – p 74))

    Other examples
    “Two things are very clear from the above verse; (SURA NISA-V:34)one is that it deals only with those WIVES WHO HAVE STARTED I interest in other men and are becoming unfaithful to their husbands. This point has been very clearly stated by the Holy Prophet in his narrations.” (UNFAITHFUL is a interesting definition of “Nashooz” .. isn’t it)
    (Islam & Modern World – p 80)

    “Unlike this, the punishment of adultery is just hundred lashes, which is because of the far less gravity of this crime than murder.” (Al-Nur-24:2-3) (Is it really unfair and fallacious to say that Dr.Farooq Khan was denying the Tawatar and ijma?)

    QURAN E KAREEM & AHADITH E MUBARIKA ON HIJAB:
    Here is the references from Quran and Ahadith.I present here without any commentary.Although there are exceptions, aspects of application and emergency situations like any other Islamic injunction.One can easily see the how much Dr.Farooq Khan deviated. Also i didn’t include the opinion of Aaimma Arbea and scholars belonged to their denominations for the sake of convenience and due to time and space problem.

    Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.
    And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
    (Sura Al Noor /30-31)

    O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
    (Sura AL Aehzab /59)

    (Ibn ‘Abbaas (RA) said: “Allah commanded the believing women, if they go out of their houses for some need, to cover their faces from the top of their heads with their jilbaabs, and to leave one eye showing.”

    The tafseer of the Sahaabah is evidence, indeed some of the scholars said that it comes under the same ruling as marfoo’ reports that go back to the Prophet (SAW)

    Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab The Prophet (saaws) said, “Whenever a man is alone with a woman the Devil makes a third.”
    (Al-Tirmidhi 3118)

    Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin: I was with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) while Maymunah was with him. Then ibn Umm maktum came. This happened when we were ordered to observe veil (purdah). The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Observe veil from him. We asked: Apostle of Allah! is he not blind? He can neither see us nor recognise us. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Are both of you blind? Do you not see him? AbuDawud said: This was peculiar to the wives of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). Do you not see that Fatimah daughter of Qays passed her waiting period with ibn Umm maktum. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to Fatimah daughter of Qays: Pass your waiting period with ibn Umm maktum, for he is a blind man. You can put off your clothes with him. (Sunan Abu Daud 32, Hadith 4100- Also mentioned in Mishkat/Tirmizi)

    jarir b. ‘Abdullah reported: I asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) about the sudden glance (that is cast) on the face (of a non-Mahram). He commanded me that I should turn away my eyes.
    (Sahih Muslim Book 25, Hadith 5372) Also mentioned in Sunan abu daud

    Narrated Buraydah ibn al-Hasib: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: to Ali: Do not give a second look, Ali, (because) while you are not to blame for the first, you have no right to the second. (Sunan Abu daud 11, Hadith 2144)

    Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: When one of you asked a woman in marriage, if he is able to look at what will induce him to marry her, he should do so. He (Jabir) said: I asked a girl in marriage, I used to look at her secretly, until I looked at what induced me to marry her. I, therefore, married her.
    (Sunan abu daud 11, Hadith 2077)

    Narrated Sahl: A woman came to the Prophet and said, “I have come to present myself to you (for marriage).” She kept standing for a long period during which period the Prophet looked at her carefully.
    (Sahih Bukhari book 72 hadith 760)

    Sayyiduna Uqbah ibn Aamir (Radhiallaahu Anhu) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ?Beware of mixing with women.? An Ansari Sahaabi enquired, ?Oh Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), what about the brother-in-law?? At this, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied, ?The brother-in-law is death!?
    (Sahih Bukhari Hadith5232; Sahih Muslim Hadith5638)

    Among other proofs that support the above is the Hadith narrated by Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ?No man should be in seclusion with another woman except the Mahrams.? (Sahih Bukhari Hadith5233, 1862)

    PRACTICE OF HIJAB IN THE EARLIER DAYS AS PER BOOKS OF AHADITH

    ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that her foster-uncle whose name was Aflah sought permission from her (to enter the house) but she observed seclusion from him, and informed Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) who said to her: Don’t observe veil from him for he is Mahram (one with whom marriage cannot be contracted) on account of fosterage as one is Mahram on account of consanguinity.
    (Sahih bukhari book 8, Hadith 3405)

    Narrated ‘Aisha: Allah’s Apostle used to offer the Fajr prayer and some believing women covered with their veiling sheets used to attend the Fajr prayer with him and then they would return to their homes unrecognized .
    (Sahih Bukhari Book 8, Hadith 368)

    ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Sa’d b. Abu Waqqas and Abd b. Zam’a (Allah be pleased with them) disputed with each other over a young boy. Sa’d said: Messenger of Allah, he is the son of my brother ‘Utba b. Abu Waqqas as he made it explicit that he was his son. Look at his resemblance. Abd b. Zam’a said Messenger of Allah, he is my brother as he was born on the bed of my father from his slave-girl. Allah’s Messenger (way peace he upon him) looked at his resembl-. ance and found a clear resemblance with ‘Utba. (But) he said: He is yours 0 ‘Abd (b. Zam’a), for the child is to be attributed to one on whose bed it is born, and stoning for a fornicator. Sauda bint Zam’a, O you should observe veil from him. So he did not see Sauda at all. Muhammad b. Rumh did not make a mention (of the words):” O Abd.”
    (Sahih bukhari 8, Hadith 3435)

    Narrated Thabit ibn Qays: A woman called UMM KHALLAD came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) while she was veiled. She was searching for her son who had been killed (in the battle) Some of the Companions of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: You have come here asking for your son while veiling your face? She said: If I am afflicted with the loss of my son, I shall not suffer the loss of my modesty. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: You will get the reward of two martyrs for your son. She asked: Why is that so, Apostle of Allah? He replied: Because the people of the Book have killed him.

    (Sunan abi daood-Book 14, Hadith 2482)

    Narrated aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: Riders would pass us when we accompanied the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) while we were in the sacred state (wearing ihram). When they came by us, one of us would let down her outer garment from her head over her face, and when they had passed on, we would uncover our faces.

    (Sunan Abu Daud-Book 10 Hadith 1829)

    Narrated ‘Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah’s Apostle “Let your wives be veiled” But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.’ Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam’a went out and she was a tall woman. ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, “I have recognized you, O Sauda!” He (‘Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling

    (Sahih Bukhari Book 74, Hadith 257)

    MY LAST WORDS

    I strongly believe that our new age scholars derive their standards according to the principles set by modern global civilization. This fact is proven at least for me and many muslims like me. Like Ghamdi Who even do not hasitate to deny the hadith and insist on his opinion. Who ever observe him closely will definitely agree with me.The same is true for Dr.Farooq Khan although with lesser degree. For many people like me the Islam is a test for the Muslim. As mentioned in Quran;

    “You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allah; but if you persevere patiently, and become Al-Muttaqun (the pious – See V.2:2) then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs (and that is from the great matters which you must hold on with all your efforts).
    (Sura Aal e Imran -186)

    “And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to As-Sabirun (the patient).
    (Sura Baqarah 155)

    Do you think that you will enter Paradise before Allah tests those of you who fought (in His Cause) and (also) tests those who are As-Sabirun (the patient)?
    (sura Aal e Imran -142)

    It is a divine message, rather than a commercial product which could be modified according to the requirements of the individuals.
    May Allah(swt) save us from the evils of the desire and hypocrisy.

  34. I am not judging any one author expressing himself in a unique but predictable way. I would again say if some one preaching an opinion contrary to the tawatur, and Ijma and present that as an Islamic opinion then the person should be condemned.

    And I am only trying to contest the kind of absolute uniformity you are trying to project backwards into Islamic history of exegesis, hadith and jurisprudence. Its strange, if not funny, how you are trying to explicitly invoke Ijma’a and Tawatur when there is not even a consensus on definition of both; hence goes the famous legal aphorism that there is no Ijma’a on definition of Ijma’a.

    Please note that I am not negating presence of these important legal operatives. Google “Stare Decisis in Islamic Law” and “Shafii on Ijmaa” and you’ll come across some of my opinions. Remember, quoting hadith is not proving Ijma’a and Tawatur; you cannot do it if Shafii says its nearly impossible and Malik defined it approximately as consensus of Madinite scholars.

    We all know the favorite Islam bashing topics of the west and efforts of reinterpretation and redefinition by our new age scholars.we all can see the emergence of …It is a two plus two is equal to four kind of mathematics. No need for a higher intelligence and study.

    My friend, its entirely up to if you are comfortable with your insecurities and idiosyncrasies; but trying to understand religion requires intelligence and study. Its not kindergarten mathematics, its as complicated as life. Take it as you like.

    My question is “can any one interpret against the series of Sahih Ahadith with multiple narrators ( tawatur) on which diaspora of scholar agreed to conceive an Islamic injunction? That is what i am asking. Kindly tell me if there is any respected scholar in the history who ignored the series of Ahadith and interpreted according to his own “understanding” of Quran and Sunnah. Kindly tell me if there is any respected scholar in the history who ignored the series of Ahadith and interpreted according to his own “understanding” of Quran and Sunnah.

    Again, my bad; I see you missing my point. I am just trying to establish here that if all the jurists disagree regarding use and interpretation of Quran and Hadith in deriving jurisprudential issues and many of them disagree in as basic aspects as Khaas (specific), Aam (general) and Naskh (abrogation) in both, and its obvious as they reach different rulings, than how can you justify your contention regarding a continuous historical homogeneity?

    I think we are going in a wrong direction.Instead of meddling in a difficult terrain of “differences between scholars and the reasons behind” which could be misleading and fruitless.Let us become more focus on the issue.The whole discussion started because like many others, i am not happy with the misinterpretation by Dr.Farooq Muhammed Khan on certain issues.

    No, with all due respect, you choose to ignore some of my basic objections on your initial stance. I quoted you an Ayah and an example from Sunnah that only Allah knows the true intentions of people and even if we are almost sure of their pretensions, we must not doubt them and leave their matter to Allah and Allah alone. Should I understand that you regret being happy on a fellow Muslim’s murder? Of course, there is no need to reply; I am also a sinner like you and consider you my brother.

    I also agree that it is neither necessary nor important for a common Muslim to understand differences among scholars but I don’t agree that he should negate and choose to remain oblivious to this important historical fact that there were differences among scholars in the past and will remain for times to come. After all, Quran is but ink and paper; it is we who read it. I have not said that; it was Ali (ra). I again reiterate that I do not want you to agree with Dr Farooq (may Allah bless his soul) and neither do I; what I disagree with is your unconcern and happiness over a human being’s murder.

    Your arguments regarding Hijab and ahadith you quoted are totally irrelevant to the context of our discussion. Of course, there is no reason for you to believe that I disagree with what you quoted and you are welcome to get in touch with me through email or through my blog.

    regards and salam

  35. Questor

    Should I understand that you regret being happy on a fellow Muslim’s murder? Of course, there is no need to reply; I am also a sinner like you and consider you my brother.

    Not to intrude on your conversation, but I’m struck by the framework within which it seems to be conducted. Seems to me that having an opinion can be a sin in this framework.

    That, IMO, renders thought to be nearly impossible.

  36. @ Questor

    Thank you for aptly highlighting this. I wish to clarify that my usage of the word “sinner” was not more than a mere figure of language. What I wanted to convey was that all of us have our own capricious moments which we seldom like to be reminded of; the mortal sinners we are. It would have been more appropriate if I used better language.

    However, I believe its the right of the forum to know whether the opinions chosen to be publicized here by participants, for the sole purpose of inviting discussion, have been retracted or not, if found capricious; or else these should be expounded further as I have tried to do above in response to your very valid remark. In my humble opinion, this is the way a public conversation should be conducted in order to provoke fruitful thought.