The WORLD must mobilize to help Pakistan for its own sake


The world is on the threshold of a great tragedy. 

 All the gains in the war on terror are about to be lost, all thanks to sheer indifference that the international community is showing towards what shall rank as one of the greatest humanitarian disasters of the 21st century.    (Americans are a notable exception – as usual- but their efforts find no projection from the hostile and bigoted Pakistani media).

In this void are stepping extremists of all kinds.  Most of the  relief camps in the otherwise liberal city of Lahore are run by Jamaat-ud-dawa.   Indeed the government of Punjab has been forced to turn a blind eye to religious extremists for the reason that they are aiding relief efforts.   For more on this,  read Ahmad Nadeem Gehla’s article posted on our website.  However one is heartened by the fact that there are voices of reason guiding the American administation:

Anthony Cordesman, who has advised the Obama administration on Afghanistan and Pakistan, said the floods represent “a major opportunity” for Islamist groups to win further influence among people denied government services.

“If we have to deal with a radicalized Pakistan, that raises the threat that is posed by terrorism by several orders of magnitude,” he said.

Read more:

Earlier today we posted Steve Soloman’s article on the looming water shortage issue for Pakistan.    By playing a neutrality and allowing India to stretch the logic of the Indus Water Treaty,   the world is laying the foundation for the next Afghanistan and need I remind you that this one will always have the spectre of nuclear weapons. 

Deputy British Prime Minister Nick Clegg described the global response to Pakistani floods as lamentable. 

A Pakistani mother carries her children through flood water A Pakistani mother carries her children through flood water in Muzaffargarh city, Punjab province. Photograph: KM Chaudary/APNick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, today described the international response to the plight of flood-striken Pakistan as “lamentable”.

Clegg, the public face of the government while David Cameron is on holiday for two weeks, said that the scale of the disaster was “overwhelming”.

Asked what Britain was doing to help those affected by floods in Pakistan and why it was not doing more, at a question and answer session today at the offices of MSN in London, Clegg said that a quarter of the aid given so far to Pakistan had come from Britain.

“The response from the international community as a whole, I have to say, has been lamentable. It’s been absolutely pitiful,” he said.

He added that people were struggling to grasp the extent of the damage inflicted.

 It is an understatement.    It is murderous.    Culpable in this murderous indifference is Mr. Clegg’s senior coalition partner,  Mr. David Cameron, who with his ill-advised, undiplomatic statement set the ball rolling on the global indifference towards Pakistan. And yet the world is only partly to blame,  when our own TV Channels are more interested in shoes and Zardari baiting than giving adequate and effective coverage to the floods.    Death and misery that has cornered Pakistan since 2007 has made all of us indifferent.  Pakistani elite in Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi continues to go about its business unconcerned with the fact that they are about to lose the plot in a story that has so far sustained their extravagant first world lifestyles in a third world country.  We must stand up and be counted for others to help us.

There is no sense of entitlement, when we Pakistanis stake claim on international help.   For many decades,  we have played your great games and done your dirty work.   The least the world can do is compensate us for the damages we have sustained in the process.    If  the West could rebuild Japan, Germany and Italy, surely it should have no qualms in rebuilding an ally that has sustained more in their wars for over half a century.    Surely it is not much to ask for you to play an even-handed role when dealing with India and Pakistan on the issue of water.

Remember the worst is still to come:

Nature looks at the causes and consequences of the flooding of the Indus river.
Kate LarkinIt is over two weeks since the floods began in Pakistan, and the rains are still falling. Already termed the worst flooding to hit Pakistan for 80 years, this deluge has affected millions of people, and so far over 1,600 have died.
With the impacts of the flooding likely to continue well after the flood waters have retreated, Nature examines the escalating humanitarian disaster.
What is the main cause of the intense rainfall?
It is weather, not climate change, that is to blame, according to meteorologists. An unusual jet stream in the upper atmosphere from the north is intensifying rainfall in an area that is already in the midst of the summer monsoon (see animation showing the growing extent of the flood waters). “What sets this year apart from others is the intensity and localisation of the rainfall,” says Ramesh Kumar, a meteorologist at the National Institute of Oceanography, Goa, India. “Four months of rainfall has fallen in just a couple of days.”
Has human activity exacerbated the flooding?
Yes. The high population growth rate in Pakistan has contributed to a rapid deterioration of the country’s natural environment. This includes extensive deforestation and the building of dams for irrigation and power generation across tributaries of the Indus river. Years of political unrest have also left their mark, and flood waters are transporting land mines, posing an extra danger to the relief mission.
Is the humanitarian crisis larger than the 2004 Asian tsunami, as some media reports have claimed?

Not in terms of the death toll. With 1,600 people reported dead, this remains 100 times less than the 2004 Indian ocean tsunami. However, the scale of the tragedy continues to increase, with around 14 million people in immediate need of emergency aid. Many of Pakistan’s bridges and roads have been destroyed, and severe weather is grounding helicopters, slowing relief efforts.
On 11 August the UN and its partners launched an appeal for aid, and the World Bank has announced a grant of $900 million for relief and reconstruction.
What about disease?
The harsh reality is that waterborne diseases are linked to floods — and with cholera outbreaks reported in the northern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan, this flooding event seems to be no exception. The fear is that a lack of sanitation will see the fatal diarrhoeal disease spreading. And stagnant water may pose other threats. “The Pakistan floods and stagnant waters may also cause an increase in malarial cases,” says Sandy Cairncross, public health engineer at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.
How can Pakistan prepare for floods in future?
“There is currently no effective water management strategy to speak of in Pakistan,” says Shah Murad Aliani, country representative for the International Union for Conservation of Nature in Pakistan.

Such a strategy will include building adequate flood defences along the Indus River, where most of southern Pakistan’s population live, and improving flood forecasting systems. International efforts on this front include the European Commission Joint Research Centre, which is developing and testing a Global Flood Detection System to monitor the floods from space.
How will climate change affect the region in future?
“As the atmosphere gets warmer, the carrying capacity for moisture will increase,” says Kumar. Put bluntly: if Pakistan’s climate warms in the future, rainfall will increase.
There already seem to be more extreme rainstorms than ever before across the Indian subcontinent. A 2006 study indicated that this trend may be set to continue — though the researchers did not unequivocally link this to climate change1.
But many researchers believe that the present flooding may be part of a longer-term trend. “Climate change will be a small but steady contributor to rainfall in the region,” says Jeff Knight, climate variability expert at the UK Met Office Hadley Centre.

In the end,  does the world really think that after using Pakistan like cannon fodder,  it can allow Pakistan to die a natural death?   This is an extraordinary proposition because our posterity will see the full horror of the collossal miscalculation all over the world.



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46 responses to “The WORLD must mobilize to help Pakistan for its own sake

  1. Henner

    If Pakistan can find the money to build nuclear weapons and finance the Taliban in Afghanistan, then the West should assume that Pakistan has the resources to overcome this natural disaster also, and there is no need for outside help.

    After all the death of ISAF soldiers in Afghanistan at the hands of Pakistan-supported Taliban, I think, there is little sympathy for Pakistan. Pakistan has blood on its hands, and may be this flood will help in washing it off.

  2. sober

    If you are participating in WOT ,does that mean,you are immune to nature’s fury?The tone of this article is of the nature of blackmail.When the country is ruled by the military,there will be some war or the other being thrust upon the populace.The US outsourced its war to pakistan,and the pakistani military establishmet,was very happy to kill two birds with one stone.(viz the entrapment of afghanistan,and filling up of personal coffers of various sections of the pakistani establishment and funding the military purchases).The world will do what is required to be done,in the event of pakistan falling in the hands of the taliban.Hence it is pakistan which must mobilize itself and fight back for its survival.You chose to be part of the WOT.You are also being paid for that.Nobody is responsible for natural disasters in pakistan.As human beings,all of us empathise with your predicament,and all countries should pitch in and help pakistan,but please stop this bartering business.It sounds so cheap.Don’t you have any national pride left?

  3. Z0rina Khan

    It is interesting that Pakistan is now begging for world help when in need. Its usual morande operatus is to blame the world for its problems.
    Also there are many rich Pakistanis in Pakistan & abroad and what about the so called Muslim brethren in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia,Iran, Somalia where is all the Muslim help; just pittance is trickling in and the world is pissed at Pakistan and its lazy people & culture of corruption so that is translating into: “disasters happen you Pakistanis deal with it!”

  4. Ally

    Khudi ko kar bulund itna… the outside world can only help so much… it us, and only us, that can change our destiny… 1 out of 10 Pakistanis has been affected, but there are still those other 9, and it is that other 9 that has to do the majority of the work…

    You cannot blackmail the world, and that is exactly what this peice is doing… wake up, do you think the world owes us something? You are saying to the world give us this or else, with gun pointed to your head.

    You’re desperation shows in this article… you could have just informed people of the facts about the tragedy and reminded them that the lady carrying her children is not responsible for either the WoT or Pakistan’s nuclear weapons…

  5. RTZ

    India’s role in Indus Waters Treaty has nothing to do with either the current floods or the shortage of water that Pakistan is facing.

    The problem is the age-old habit of viewing India as a threat. It is a perception problem, nothing more – particularly when you consider that India has abided by the terms of Indus Waters treaty through 3 wars and countless Pak sponsored insurgencies in India.

    Even if the international community manages to armtwist India into doing what Pakistan is asking it to do – that still does not solve Pakistan’s water problem. Indian hydro-electric projects do not reduce the volume of flow of water to Pakistan. It does gives India the capability to dam the Indus waters for one month and spoil its crops in harvest season. However, if those projects do not exist – it still won’t increase the water flow to Pakistan because it never decreased the water flow in the first place. That would happen by investments in its own irrigation infrastructure and reducing wasteful practices.

    Also, India’s offer of $5 million aid to Pakistan is still under consideration – so much for the disaster.

  6. Haq

    To all the posters above,

    Stop being an asshole. Pakistan has been doing what it has been doing as an ally of the West. I find it criminally hypocrtical when indians come and lecture us about Taliban. As if there surrogates Mukti Bhanis, LTTE and the Northern Alliance, Baloch Liberation Army are/were any better.

    Pakistan has immense resilience and will come out of this also with or without the international community. Worry about Naxalites, Kashmir, your own culture of corruption and misgovernance and the criminals that over past 60+ years you have integrated in your plotical life.

  7. androidguy

    @Mr. Haq,

    “..Pakistan has immense resilience and will come out of this also with or without the international community…”

    Then why is your countryman writing this article of doom & gloom? …

    “In the end, does the world really think that after using Pakistan like cannon fodder, it can allow Pakistan to die a natural death” (Huh?) . Pakistan will die a death because of a flood? Really? How about not building that new GHQ and divert the funds for flood relief, Mr.Haq?

  8. sober

    Mr haq,
    unfortunately it is people like you who are going to take pakistan to its downfall(if there is indeed anything more worse ).India is a humble country but begging to the world is not our profession.Pakistan has been reduced to the state of a beggar by people like you,who do not want to wake up and face facts. We feel ashamed because we share the same umbilical chord.Where is your sense of shame?Is this what you got pakistan for?To become beggars?Your false pride will ruin your country(has ruined it i should say).Pride goeth before the fall.

  9. kashifiat

    Haq ! U r 100% rights, I am with u

  10. Girish

    For some reason, floods (particularly those not caused by cyclones/hurricanes) don’t evoke the same compassionate reaction from people like earthquakes or tsunamis do. Perhaps because fewer people are killed – the Tsunami killed 230,000 people and the more destructive earthquakes have killed tens of thousands of people. The effect of floods is less drastic and its effects are spread out over a long period of time. The shock value is not there. The reaction is not as strong also because perhaps it affects rural populations more than those in cities. The destruction is not as graphic as a result.

    This is incorrectly being presented as a lack of compassion because it is in Pakistan – rather the muted effect is because these are floods rather than a sudden cataclysmic event such as an earthquake. Bangladeshis regularly suffer from floods. How much news does it get? In 2008, the Kosi river changed course due to the breaching of poorly maintained embankments in Nepal and caused massive flooding in Bihar. A third of the state was inundated, with a 1000 people killed and 3 million people affected. How many Pakistanis even know about those floods? The flooding in China has been severe in the last few days, leadings to the loss of scores of lives. Is it in the news at all?


    There are multiple reasons for tight-fisted response to flood relief activities like donor fatigue(tsunami,kashmir earthquake,haiti,katrina etc),less dramatic but more devastative nature of flood, int. economic recession, non-stop negative media coverage of pakistan since 1980,poor credibility of pakistani politicians esp zardari….But slowly response is increasing.People with true compassion for humanity are not deterred by above mentioned factors.

    you can not blame ordinary people, especially children, for the policies of their government, especially in a country which doesn’t have a good record of consulting voters.


    This is an oppurtunity for allies of pakistan to win hearts and minds
    of people of khayber-pakhtunkha(exNWFP) and southern punjab…the one and only way to win the war on terror…Billions of dollars and thousands of lives spent on fighting against taliban can not do what few million dollars spent on these ordinary people hit by floods can do .Barbarian Talibans know this which our educated mighty think tanks dont.

  13. iamhere

    Same old “hold them up” criminality by YLH.
    Give us $$ or else.
    -we will disintegrate and the terrorist will have nuclear weapon.
    -we will have no choice but to help taliban.
    -we have terrorist because the “west” has betrayed us.
    The entire world should NOT give a penny to pakistan. This devastating flood is the BEST leverage the world has with the thugs with the guns aka Pak army/ISI. If they dont walk the walk, let the people suffer, there will be a revolution and pakistan will disintegrate along its fault lines, punjab,sindh,balochistan and Khyber-pakhtunwa. Only people to lose will be feudals and the generals!

  14. tilsim1

    @ Girish

    Whilst what you may say is true about the reaction to floods being different, one must remember that even Ban Ki Moon has acknowledged that, to paraphrase, this is a disaster of biblical proportions.

    The area that is under water is the size of Italy. All of this happened in the middle of a domestic terrorist insurgency, also on a large scale. Agriculture employs two thirds of the workforce and produces 20% of the income. We have a large debt burden. These displaced persons are making their way to the cities. I think the situation is quite explosive. Pakistanis are resilient and will manage through this but there is danger of mass starvation, disease and death. Each life that is not saved because of a lack of funds feels terrible.

    There are some people here who are equating to an example of Pakistan begging. They are the scum of the earth.

  15. A. Yusafzai

    Pakistan would not need the international community’s assistance if some of the wealthier Pakistanis paid their taxes. And if that tax money was efficiently utilized. And if there wasn’t so much inequality in the distribution of wealth and resources. And if national policies had struck a balance between national and human security.

  16. iamhere

    @A. Yusafzai
    NS$ paid no tax since from 2007 because he was “out of the country”. He uses Kulsum’s car to drive around. Poor NS$$.
    The same goes for mr. 10% and other “poor” members of parliament who drive around in pajeros and land cruiser.
    Instead, they want to have VAT….poor will pay..revolution time!

  17. Girish


    A strong case can and should be made that this is a disaster comparable in scale and effect to other major disasters. And that despite Pakistan being a strong military power, it lacks the resources to deal with this crisis on its own even with respect to relief and that the people do need external assistance for rehabilitation and reconstruction.

    It is the wrong case to make that somehow because Pakistan fought the wars of the past for Western powers (ignoring the fact that these were fought willingly by Pakistan’s military rulers for their own narrow self interest and often to the detriment of the Western powers), it deserves compensation in the form of aid to flood victims.

    It also smacks of lack of gratitude – ordinary people open their purse strings out of generosity. That generosity needs to be brought out instead of making the negative case that somehow the potential donors are being wrong in not giving money. Leave aside moral arguments – it is unlikely to be effective.

  18. tilsim1

    @ Girish

    I agree with you

  19. YLH

    Ally mian,

    Pakistan has been a frontline state for over 40 yrs. The west supported people like ZH/ moududi etc. We are here thanks to the west. Only asking for our due.

  20. YLH


    The west has blood on its hand too.

    The irony you don’t understand -ignorant people like you- is that those gentlemen in the ISI who have been supporting the Taliban according to you are in the homes in Isloo unaffected. Only poor people are getting killed and those survivors are now susceptible to taliban ideology.

    Taliban and their financiers are a common enemy of the world including people like me. How ironic… You put people isi and taliban on our heads and then you gloat when we die in the floods.

    What justice and fairness you people have.

  21. sid

    Looks like Pakistan has put conditions on India’s 5M$ aid, that it will accept it only if it comes through UN aid program. *sigh* Pakistan govt. doesn’t want Pakistanis know that India is helping. So much for peace and people to people initiatives…

  22. shiv

    YLH wrote
    All the gains in the war on terror are about to be lost, all thanks to sheer indifference that the international community

    What gains have been there in the war on terror?

    The Taliban are fit and healthy with Mullah Omar ready to return to power. Sectarian violence has risen greatly in Pakistan. India has seen some of the worst terror attacks ever emanating from Pakistan.

    If this is an appeal for aid to Pakistan, linking it with the non-gains in the war on terror is an old Pakistani gambit “Pay us because we have done so much or we will collapse and make it worse for you”.
    In other words, negotiating with a gun placed to your head.

    As a person who has observed this kind of attitude from Pakistan for years – I must point out that it only makes me puke.

  23. Hayyer

    The world should help Pakistan more than it has already without reference to the war on terror. It is an unprecedented human disaster.
    But India does not partake of any blame. It has not stretched the logic of the Indus Waters Treaty. The treaty specifically allows India run of the river projects.
    All dams even storage dams built by Pakistan have a dead storage below which no power can be generated. This water is a permanent loss.
    India has built four large projects on the Jehlum and Chenab over 43 years. And used a total of 4 months of filling time, as allowed by the treaty.
    The solution is to ask India to build storage dams with Pakistan continuing to have lien on the water and India on the power. There is no other solution to the Indus Waters problem in so far as India is concerned.
    It is the storage dams on the Sutlej, Beas and Ravi that have saved Pakistan from an even worse situation. These three rivers would have brought an additional million cusecs into Pakistan to the million already flooding lower Sindh. The Chenab is probably bringing in 200,000 cusecs at flood. Other flashy rivers like the Jammu Tawi and the Ujh and others are continuing to pour water into Pakistan.
    The Indus and Shyok rivers have never had a monsoon effect till this year but these too have flooded because of cloudbursts in Leh and Nubra.
    It is as clear as daylight that Pakistan should encourage India to build storage. If you succeed in winning Kashmir these dams will become yours anyway; till then why not allow them to be built.
    If India has adhered to the treaty for 50 years through war and provocation you can extend the trust to allow us to store water.

  24. Capt. Vindaloo

    Begging while holding a gun to one’s own head is an art. Pakistan has perfected this art.

    ‘Give us, or else….’

    Now who is going give the guarantee that all the aid money will actually reach the needy, and a large chunk of it will not be diverted to finance the next jihad, or pay the next installment for JF-17?

    Btw, Ajmal Kasab came from the same stock that is currently snorkeling in the land of pure.

  25. D_a_n

    @ Shiv…

    ‘I must point out that it only makes me puke.’

    Please make sure to clean up on your way out……

  26. rationalistic

    ylh wrote:

    “Pakistan has been a frontline state for over 40 yrs. The west supported people like ZH/ moududi etc. We are here thanks to the west. Only asking for our due.”

    So Pakistanis are innocent like lambs? When will you pakistanis wake up to the idea there is a word called “honesty”?

    What is due to Pakistan is a good walloping as necessary for a rogue state and ideology.
    I hope some internal pakistani power will do it so that we non-muslims do not have to take the blame or do the hard ruthless work.

    Pakistan was not and still is not a frontline state against islamic terrorism and extremism. Pakistan was a double-dealing frontline state against communism (in order to please the capitalist fascists ruling over USA and the saudis). Pakistan was a frontline state against India’s difficult way out of poverty and illiteracy, a way that is still a long stretch ahead of us Indians because of the waste of resources that Pakistani belligerence forced upon us.

    What a better place Kashmir would have been today if Pakistan had not introduced violence into this conflict in Oct. 1947 and then repeatedly in later years?

    The west supported Maududi and ZH because they was already strong and up-coming in Pakistan. It was a blunder on the part of the west – but the blame or guilt is not on the west. The west supported those whom Pakistan presented as its inevitable and desired future.

  27. Haq

    Stop bullshiting. ZH and Madudi were never popular in Pakistan and nor were they ever upcoming. And if you know what is happening in Kashmir today (as we are discussing this) you would know that the mantara of blaming Pakistan does not work. So please go back to Bharat Rakshak and spew your venom there.

  28. Farukh Sarwar

    US have been providing Pakistan a great amount of relief; however, the terror organizations are also cashing the opportunity. This must not happen if Pakistan needs to survive.

  29. Henner


    You put people isi and taliban on our heads and then you gloat when we die in the floods.

    Nobody is gloating about the deaths of the poor people in Pakistan or the difficulties caused by the floods.

    The point is however that it is not as if Afghan Taliban and ISI are hugely unpopular in Pakistan. Pakistanis have consistently shown support to these groups.

    Not just me, but many people in the West, have noticed that the Pakistanis like to always play victims. We are not responsible for your government’s policies or for the very militant society that has arisen in Pakistan. The Pakistanis should take the full responsibility for it.

    If Pakistan wants help for these floods, they should turn to the Bangladeshis and try to learn how they cope with the floods, which are a yearly occurrence there, and how they manage without so much begging and international aid.

  30. Reema Reza

    Haq* its people like you that continue to be the butt**holes that are leading Pakistan to the path of being a terrorist laden..whining…gutless…hypocritical…blaming the world…corrupt riden….lazy…nation on to being nonexistent.
    Pakistan is the laughing stock of the world that it cannot manage its own crisis for its own people while it BEGS for assistance: countries in power can make demands….weak countries like Pakistan have to have to settle for the scraps that other nations are willing to throw.

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  32. shiv

    @ Hayyer
    The solution is to ask India to build storage dams with Pakistan continuing to have lien on the water and India on the power. There is no other solution

    Hayyer I think that is not the only problem. I have read (recently) that many of the excellent irrigation canals in Pakistan were built to raise the water table high and prevent drought. Floods were not considered. Secondly I doubt if serious desilting has been done in the canals where needed.

    After all, the management of WAPDA, Pakistan’s cricket team and defence against India have been done for years by the same uniformed, respected organization – and that organization is too busy defending against India to manage the other two effectively.

  33. libertarian

    India needs to show leadership if it considers itself a regional power. $500M funded immediately is what one (Indian) blogger suggests. He acknowledges the issue of the army controlling that money. But $250M going to the folks who need it is better than nothing at all. What sane Pakistan government could/would refuse? Per Vinod Khosla’s “a crisis is a terrible thing to waste”. Come on Manmohan Singh – stop being timid! This is your chance for the history books.

    @YLH: a little humility and acknowledging that you guys screwed up would go a long way. Stop this we’re-just-innocent-pawns in a Great Game nonsense. Nobody owes you jack. Get over that silly entitlement mentality. This loud, righteous indignation is a poor facade for the sad self-loathing.

  34. S

    Maybe India should worry about its 1000 million poor. Have you forgotten the fact that we have more poor than 72 poorest African Nation.

  35. S

    “African Nations”

  36. androidguy


    Then let the article explicitly say that they need help from everybody else except India.


    @all pakistanis who want help as entitlement or right or blackmail
    @all non-pakistanis who want excuses for not helping suffering humans
    @all indian who want to stop the world from helping their “arch enemy”
    WORK HARD. And SHUT UP if you can

    @ALL HUMANS AN HUMANISTs belonging to any religion, region or nationality ,who have true compassion for humanity…

    ——————————————— PLEASE GO AHEAD…PROCEED….

    Everybody will do whatever he has to do.All people have not the same level of growth..the former group of people still need more awareness and growth as humans.

  38. libertarian

    @S: Maybe India should worry about its 1000 million poor. Have you forgotten the fact that we have more poor than 72 poorest African Nations.

    And how is that related to helping flood victims with $500M? I won’t bother to dispute your non-facts, but your argument to focus instead on India’s “1000 million poor” is a red herring. India did not take any help in the tsunami and helped Sri Lanka as well. India offered much more than $5M in cash and kind during the 2005 earthquake even while J&K was hit. In a country where cricket teams retail for $200M, $500M spent on a disaster of this magnitude should be a shoo-in.

    We are the only ones with resources and a workable land-bridge to Pakistan – China’s is not useful for logistics on this scale. Of course this is contingent on both governments getting their heads out of their a$$es.

    The folks getting the short end of the stick here are the ones who’ve been d*cked around by the state, agencies and jihadists for decades. They need help NOT because of loose nukes, failing state, balkanisation fears, coup fears and other assorted ghosts. They just need help as people. It’s pretty simple.

  39. Tilsim

    @ libertarian

    I think many sane Pakistanis will appreciate your sentiment, specially those that are suffering immensely. This hostility over aid is useless and disgusting.

  40. bciv



    Then let the article explicitly say that they need help from everybody else except India.

    not only did you work out that S must be a pakistani, using “we” only to deceive, you even knew that S = YLH. i’m impressed.

  41. YLH: this is an excellent post and sums up the need for the WORLD to wake up

  42. Girish


    I know you advocate the construction of dams on the Indian side of rivers whose waters have been given to Pakistan (with guarantees that India would not use the waters). Is there any hope in hell of ever achieving something like this, howsoever sensible the proposal might be? There are people today blaming the floods on India and advocating that Pakistan destroy all Indian dams. How that will help Pakistan in times of floods, the author does not say? What would be the consequences of such an act, which would be an act of war? How would Pakistan destroy these dams, aim missiles with nuclear bombs at the dams – it does not have the capability to do so otherwise)?

    Isn’t your recommendation going to be seen as a further act of hostility by such folks? And before you dismiss this as merely the rantings of a handful of loony extremists, you might be interested to know that this is a person with a television show of his own and a pretty large audience. A loony headed extremist for sure, but one with a not so insignificant following!

  43. libertarian

    @Tilsim: I think many sane Pakistanis will appreciate your sentiment, specially those that are suffering immensely. This hostility over aid is useless and disgusting.

    Thanks. And agree with the senselessness of the hostility. It’s a helpless feeling to not be able to make a material difference though. In contrast, during the Haiti relief effort, I was shamed into eating a horrible cupcake and ponying up $5 for the privilege – right there from my mobile. A 20 minute “shaming” exercise raised at least $100. Wyclef Jean alone raised more than $1M in short order. In contrast, all I see for flood relief, is a little donation box at the local Halal Meats shop with a few bucks in there. If Edhi authorized someone use his name much more could be done.

  44. Tilsim


    There are influential loonies out there with their own TV shows, like in the US. So far, I don’t think ordinary Pakistanis believe this conspiracy theory against India causing the floods.

  45. Tilsim

    @ libertarian

    Shaming or generating guilt works too. We need a piece on the most effective tactics for getting people to be generous.

  46. Ranger

    libertarian and others,