Wake up Punjab

Cross Post from Daily Dawn

By Nadeem F. Paracha

 Another bomb attack in Lahore. What to expect from the PMLN government in the Punjab? Lip service condemning terrorism, of course. But, as usual, keeping in mind the Punjab government’s past record, the condemnation will be general and vague.

Even as the PPP-led coalition government in Islamabad will not hesitate to take names – they’ll point to the Taliban or the many sectarian organisations working as Al Qaeda’s foot soldiers – it is expected that the Punjab government under the PMLN will not.

Determining which forces are hell-bent on mutilating the country is not rocket science. But brace yourself (yet again) to be bombarded by the PMLN leadership and the usual intransigent suspects on TV channels talking generalised nonsense about terrorism and the ubiquitous ‘foreign hand,’ consequently drowning out the obvious involvement of any of the many extremist organisations running amok in Pakistan’s largest province.

But why the Punjab? Although it has been ravaged and broken by extremist terrorism for over two years now, political parties strong in the Punjab (such as the PMLN), the Punjabi-dominant electronic media, and fringe Punjab-based politicos such as Imran Khan have simply refused to acknowledge reality.

Still operating from the fanciful high pedestal of a superiority complex, a bulk of urban Punjab and its leadership continues to live in a stunning, air-tight state of denial.

Whereas in Karachi one can find a majority of common men and women unafraid to air their distaste for the extremists, and walls can be seen adorned with slogans such as ‘Taliban raj namanzoor’ (Taliban regime not acceptable), ‘Taliban sey hoshiar’ (beware of the Taliban), and, my favourite, a slogan found scribbled in a thick coat of black on a wall in a rundown lower-middle-class area of the city, ‘Mulla Omar dajjal’ (Mulla Omar the devil), one just cannot expect such voices and scenes in the Punjab, at least not in Lahore.

Why not? How can a province and a city (Lahore), devastated over and again and plunged into the depths of chaos and fear perpetrated by monsters such as the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and the province’s many clandestine sectarian organisations, simply refuse to face its most ubiquitous tormenters and demons? Why the fearful silence by its people, and why the spin, the vagueness, and ultimate derailing of the issue by the electronic media?

Punjab is suffering. And it is not only from extremist terrorism. It is as if every time its leadership and people attempt to awkwardly repress the obvious lashings of fear and confusion that cut viciously across the province whenever there is a terrorist attack, they become more vocal in their condemnation of the present government at the centre, incredibly investing more emotional and intellectual energy on abstract issues such as corruption, judiciary, and ‘good governance’ through passionate displays of TV studio and drawing-room nobility, rather than directly tackling their greatest enemy.

Funny thing is, they would readily accuse the president of corruption and the US and India for having nefarious designs on Pakistan without offering an iota of evidence, but would get into a long navel-gazing exercise asking for proof of militant involvement in a terrorist attack.

Again, why? Why in the Punjab? Are the Sindhis and Karachiites more enlightened, liberal, moderate or whatever? Some of my most intelligent friends are from the Punjab, as was my father. And so I keep asking these friends, why isn’t the Punjab fighting back this menace of extremism? Why have most of this province’s brightest minds allowed themselves to be pushed in the background by this new breed of neoconservative ‘intellectuals’ in the shape of TV talk show hosts, ‘journalists,’ ‘analysts,’ et al?

I will continue by relating two small but relevant incidents that may help clarify what I am rambling about.

In a province that has been witnessing nauseating bloodshed perpetrated by those who have a painfully narrow view of Islam and are least hesitant to slaughter innocent men, women and children in their pursuit of both heaven and the shariah, one of the Punjab’s leading politicians and ministers did not find anything wrong in accompanying the leader of a banned sectarian organisation during a recent election campaign.

The minister was PMLN’s Rana Saifullah, who proudly stood beside a notorious leader of a banned sectarian organisation during a by-election rally in Jhang. This organisation openly sympathises with the Taliban.

Only in the Punjab can such an episode take place. Only in the Punjab can a minister can get away with holding hands with a myopic violent fanatic and, in the process, openly mocking and insulting the feelings of hundreds of Punjabis whose loved ones were brutally slaughtered by the extremists that the fanatic sympathises with. Only in the Punjab can his party then go around and ask for votes from the same people. Yes, only in the Punjab.

One can also mention a recent incident that involves Zaid Hamid to hit home the point I am trying to make.

Mr. Hamid, a hyperbolic TV personality who is an animated cross between a foaming televangelist and an impassionate right-wing drawing room revolutionary, has been on a ‘speaking tour’ of various colleges and universities of the country.

Known for openly holding (and advocating) gun-loving militarist hogwash, Hamid has turned distorting history and dishing out the most twisted conspiracy theories not only into an attractive art form, but a lucrative undertaking as well.

Hailed as a modern Saladin (of the armchair variety, I’m afraid) by his mostly urban, middle-class fans, and flogged as a hate-monger with links to the most rabidly anti-India and reactionary sections of Pakistan’s intelligence agencies by his many detractors, it has been very easy for Hamid to speak at Lahore’s private universities and colleges.

This included a visit to the Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS) that only two years ago was the scene of a lively students’ movement against the dictatorship of General Pervez Musharraf.

If the student body of the prestigious university found Musharraf’s action of dismissing a chief justice unbearable, I wonder what was so bearable about a man who is not only a self-claimed supporter of the ex-dictator, but also a proud war monger whose fans are famous of uttering insightful gems such as “if the Pakistan Army was really guilty of raping Bengali women in former East Pakistan, then they had every right to because Bengalis were traitors!”

Nonetheless, after smoothly completing his ‘Wake up, Pakistan’ speaking tour of Punjab’s campuses, Hamid and his entourage of trendy, designer reactionaries, made their way towards the country’s most ravaged province, the Pakhtunkhwa.

Faced by an insane spate of suicide and bomb attacks by extremists and the military’s war against the Taliban, the youth of the Pakhtunkwa province have shown great resolve to fight back. Student organisations in various state-run universities and colleges of the province have gone on to organise cultural functions that the extremists would term ‘haraam’ and ‘unIslamic.’

Just like the Baloch Students Organisation (BSO) in Balochistan, the Peoples Students Federation (PSF), and the All Pakistan Muttahidda Students Organisation (APMSO) in Sindh, students’ organizations of the Pakhtunkhwa have continued to fight a cultural war against extremism, even when a recent cultural function organised at a university by the BSO in Balochistan’s Khuzdar area was bombed by extremists.

So when Hamid and his army of patriots reached Peshawar University, he was confronted by loud groups of protesting students who wanted him banished from the campus.

The protest, perhaps the first of its kind faced by the likes of Hamid, was organised by the Peoples Students Federation (the student-wing of the Pakistan Peoples Party), the Pakhtun Students Federation (the student-wing of the Awami National Party), and the independent collection of liberal students under the Aman Tehreek umbrella. What’s more, also joining in the protest was the Islami Jamiat Taliba, a student organisation whose mother party, the Jamaat-i-Islami, ironically sympathises with the Taliban.

As the students threw stones at Hamid’s entourage and tried to chase him off the campus, the Aman Tehreek explained exactly why democratic student organisations had joined hands to throw him out.

“We have already suffered a lot due to the suicide bombers and militants and do not want people (in our city and campuses) who promote the extremists,” said an Aman Tehreek activist talking to Dawn.

In light of this example, it seems Punjab’s political leadership is out of sync with the prevailing psyche in Sindh, Balochistan, and the Pakhtunkhwa regarding Pakistan’s war against extremism.

The people and politicians of Punjab need to contemplate difficult questions before they can rid their province of the violence that it has had to face. More so, the confused mindset that is causing violence to be bred and sustained in the Punjab must be eliminated.

47 Comments

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47 responses to “Wake up Punjab

  1. Mansoor Khalid

    The leadership of Punjab has to sit down and formulate a strategy to end the bloodshed in Punjab. Blaming everything on a ‘foreign invisible hand’ won’t do much for the cause. Plus the PML-N government needs to address the issue of ties between it leaders and banned religious extremist groups.

  2. DMPK

    While talking about Rana Sanaullah, the liberal, enlightened author once again decided to hide facts. He did not talk about PPP’s Minister of State for Interior Tasneem Qureshi meeting the same person of the banned organization, for the same purpose — for help in winning the election.

  3. Ammar

    The recent attack in Lahore cannot be termed as a security failure or breach as now matter how beefed up the security is, however the half-hearted commitment on part of Punjab government is disturbing as reports of resurgence of Jamat-ul-dawa and Sipah-e-Shaba who pose a serious threat to our internal security, apart from the strain such outfits have caused with our neighbors.
    Swift action is needed to curb the activities of these outfits before they turn into a Frankenstein monster! Janab Kahdim-e-Alla some food for tought!!

  4. hoss

    Article deals with an important issue but pointing fingers at the Provincial government or even the government in center is not a productive exercise. We need people like Paracha to take more chances with whatever freedom they have. I have seen some really scathing articles in Dawn about the army role in escalating terrorism in Pakistan and I just don’t see why Paracha can’t just come to the point instead of beating around the bush. His article is an example of similar hypocrisy that is evident in the Punjab leadership he criticized.
    The mindset in Punjab is NOT going to change by a “swift action” or a few statements from the Provincial government. It would take much more than that. A sustained use of media by the establishment during the last thirty years exploiting the Punjabi patriotism has resulted in a confused state of mind in the Punjabi heartland.
    My criticism is not about Punjab province, or the people of Punjab. It is a condemnation of how the Punjab middle class/Lower Middle class and its profound love for the country have been exploited by the establishment. Punjabis are conflicted on this issue not because they are willing to overlook the acts of terrorism; they are neutralized by a very effective propaganda campaign that has been specifically directed at them with full fury in the last thirty years but the origins of that campaign really go as far back as 1958.
    When the effective use of media in a country like the US can make people support a totally unwarranted attack on Iraq, the less educated and less politically savvy population of Punjab really is soft target.
    Politicians’ reflect the people. They are not revolutionaries; neither are they philosophers or the reformers who take risks in presenting differing ideas. Politicians follow what the public mood is and what people are thinking. They are also influenced by the establishment’s approach to different issues and would not risk going much farther than the establishment’s view point. They tend to work within the system. They stay within the general public’s defined boundaries. The boundaries of thought in Punjab are manipulated and people are severally handicapped by the level of propaganda dished out to them by the establishment and its allies in the media.
    Not to say that the Punjab is lost forever. The political currents in Punjab are nor one dimensional. People must be approached and it might take a long time to turn the things around but scolding the people of a province as a whole, would never pay off. It would only create resentment. They folks, who present a different pov or challenge the establishment’s pov, are swiftly branded as fifth columnist or straightaway traitors because that is the easiest thing to do for the establishment. The ability to still present your ideas is what makes people respect you.
    People like Faiz Ahemd Faiz and Habib Jalib both hailed from Punjab and both were called Indian agents, fifth columnists and traitors. That did not make them back out. Now they are respected in Punjab but Punjab is still not ready to fully accept what they preached. However, they sowed the seed and it is whole lot easier to build on that instead of turning people away by admonishment, scolding and rebukes.

  5. PM

    NFP does not know much about Punjab, and his partisan rant clearly shows it. Punjab is the product of long bloody history of invasions from the West and empire builders of Dilli. Now the squeeze is on from both East and West. It is liberal and tolerant in peace, conservative and bloody in timews of conflict. Right now, Pakistan a and Punjab are in twilight zone and a few bomb blast from unknown actors do not require imposition of police state. In fact it would be harmful to liberal causes. Hidden forces of mischief will be exposed soon. The focus should on bigger issues economic welfare.

  6. by the way, it is Rana Sanaullah and sooner he becomes ex minister, the better

  7. Omar Khattab

    Punjabis are beghairat!

  8. sharafs

    HP,
    Well said!

    Punjab is a pot about to come to a boil. The melted militants from FATA are either here or Karachi. The events of future are all linked to how USA engages the Taliban willing to delink from Al Qaeda and Extremism. With a pervious international border and historical agreements on cross border movements, Pakistan has to be co-opted as a crucial link. if this happens in the next few months, everything will improve. If not, the alienation of the poor and low middle class will see a revolution in militant agendas and things will explode.

    The reaction of Punjabi Haris and clergy to the events will be crucial to this WOT. Nobody seems concerned.

    Piracha sahib has scored brownie points. My question is that if the Punjab Government is actually hobnobbing with militant outfits, then how-come they are running an exclusive and shady detention center twice blasted in Model Town.

    In hindsight it were these outfits who set fires at Gojra and killed people in a rally at Faisalabad.I for sure see PMLN collaboration here.

    In this WOT, everyone seems to take a part of the pie as reward. Pakistan can go to hell as long as they win their day.

  9. hoss

    Tazeen
    March 10, 2010 at 2:24 am

    by the way, it is Rana Sanaullah and sooner he becomes ex minister, the better”

    Why not whole ISI and the army become the ex army and the ex ISI first? They created the monsters.

  10. ylh

    Rana sanaullah is an idiot. I agree with NFP in the most part except his selective conclusion terms of smaller provinces v largest province. It is not true. Zaid Hamid has no appeal in the serious professional classes and the middle class. He appeals to a few college going kids and a bunch of elitist military supporters.

    Hoss mian,

    You are the fifth columnist not faiz or anyone else. Don’t try and equate yourself – an ethno-fascist with the humanism of Faiz and Jalib.

    The reason why Paracha is beating around the bush is because he knows that this confusion of provincial parochialism with secular modernism is at best a tenuous argument.

    I have been opposing Zaid Hamid for two years and I have nothing in common with champions of provincial parochialism.

    The progression from tribalism to secular modernity has religious universalism has a midpoint.

    Had it not been for the ethno-fascist tendencies in Sindh, NWFP and Punjab itself… Muslim League would have never dabbled with the Lahore resolution and the issue of Hindu-Muslim conflict could be more easily resolved in a United India.

    It is this particularism and the failure of a universal territorial idenity to incorporate these north western provinces of British India that necessitated Pakistan.

    In 1956 and 1971 this particularism – Punjabi and Pushtun- made an honest compromise impossible for the Bengalis who were patriots to the last day.

    Zaid hamid has zero support at LUMS I can assure you. Just because they allowed him to speak doesn’t mean they agree with him.

  11. Majumdar

    Yasser Pai,

    Had it not been for the ethno-fascist tendencies in Sindh, NWFP and Punjab itself… Muslim League would have never dabbled with the Lahore resolution and the issue of Hindu-Muslim conflict could be more easily resolved in a United India.

    This is a very serious reversal of position. All along you have held (or so your stance seemed to us to bystanders) that it was the Hindoo hatemongers like the Gandhoo and Nehru who were responsible for Pakistan. So what gives?

    Regards

  12. vajra

    @Majumdar

    Don’t you see? He’s looking further back than 46, at the Lahore Resolution itself. That’s – what? – May 1940?

    Fascinating. Just when it looked as if every last fibre yielding nutrition from the subject had been chewed over.

  13. ylh

    How is Shireen Mazari’s abuse against WSJ useful to that cause?

    I am sorry but I don’t buy hoss’ nonsense. All his efforts are agenda driven…what that agenda is not very clear.

  14. B. Civilian

    did lt. col. faiz ahmed (faiz) join the british army before or after hitler attacked the ussr?

  15. B. Civilian

    the above is an ‘if i could pick your brains’ type question. thanks.

  16. ylh

    That last post meant for other board.

    Majumdar,

    It is not. Everything is a combination isn’t it. Nehru and Gandhi messed up the Cabinet Mission Plan which itself was necessitated by the Lahore Resolution which itself was necessitated by League’s (and Jinnah’s) requirement to get support in Muslim majority provinces, which in turn were too particularistic and parochial to respond to any all India causes – whether Congress led Indian nationalism or League’s minoritarian position as Pan-Indian Muslims.

    And this goes further back than 1940. Try and see what the response of Muslim leaders of Punjab and Bengal was to 1916’s Lucknow Pact. And do you think provincial status for Sindh and for NWFP that Jinnah reiterated were demands of a Bombay based Khoja Ismaili politician of the all India focus?

    I read an account of a talk of an American professor who says that had the Muslims not been divided along Muslim majority and minority lines, AIML would have never had the need for a Lahore resolution.

  17. Majumdar

    Civvie mian,

    did lt. col. faiz ahmed (faiz) join the british army before or after hitler attacked the ussr?

    A suggestion has been made on chowk that Faiz joined the Brit Army after Hitler attacked USSR. Can you clarify pls?

    Regards

  18. vajra

    @ylh

    Fascinating analysis.

    Why did you waste your time doing economics?

  19. Majumdar

    Why did you waste your time doing economics?

    Err, maybe paapi pet ka sawal hai….

    Regards

  20. hoss

    Yeah the traitor is calling Faiz a humanist not knowing exactly what Faiz stood for. I would love to see something from the traitor and the army supporter what he thinks what Faiz’s political stands were.
    I am also glad to read that the “ethno-fascist” forced the poor “not so savvy” Jinnah to fight for Pakistan. The reality is that 1940 resolution nowhere mentioned any demand for Pakistan. It was meant t for the acceptance of the political rights of the Muslim majority provinces within India.
    The funny part is “ethno-fascist” forced Jinnah to ask for Pakistan but they were never deemed fit enough to rule Pakistan after it was created, despite their majority. The communalist from India handed over power to the civil and military bureaucracy and the army decided to attack the majority for their “unsavory” and “fifth columnist” demands for political rights in 1971. After conducting the “save Pakistan” operation in 1971, the army within two years saved another part of Pakistan. If that was not enough the army continued its save Pakistan operations in Sindh, Baluchistan and now NWFP and where it is pretending to fight the jihadi it created.
    Now the army is saving the country by supporting Jihadi terrorists’ one province at a time!
    Who is actually ethno fascist? The ones that attack the other provinces or the one who ask for peoples’ political and democratic rights. The ones who support the Army its Jihadi terrorists to impose their ideology on the country as well as in the neighboring countries, or the ones who ask for peace and prosperity in the country and the neighborhood.

  21. B. Civilian

    “the army within two years saved another part of Pakistan”

    a demoralised army indebted to the only empowered civilian head of govt pakistan has had other than jinnah… you might have added, hoss. or do you think it was all little tikka khan’s idea, after gul hassan had been sent packing?

  22. B. Civilian

    majumdar

    i just wanted to know. that’s all.

  23. ylh

    Hoss,

    Your comment about the Lahore Resolution proves how shallow your thinking is. My point was precisely about the Lahore Resolution and not the demand for Pakistan. The esoteric point you thought you raised actually seconds my point of view and more discerning and intelligent observers can read my post and see how that is so.

    Military rule was sustained by this same parochialism…only the receiving end is different …first it was the Bengalis…now it is the Punjabis.

    Besides… Ayub, Yahya, Bhutto, …which one of these was a Punjabi or a Mohajir waisay?

    As for Faiz …you don’t know shit …but Faiz would never have stood for provincial rancor that you promote… His thoughts were expressed clearly in his tenure as the editor of the Pakistan Times. BC has mentioned the time when Faiz Ahmed Faiz volunteered for Ayub’s government in the 1965 war …despite being a strident opponent…was he an army supporter. I am not an army supporter either but for fifth columnists, GM Syeds and traitors, I will stand with the army no matter what my differences are with them.

    So abusing me will not change the fact whatever little I have done in the cause is much greater than a third rate wannabe “activist” leftist like you is.

    Don’t compare yourself to Faiz… Faiz was a patriot not a traitor.

  24. ylh

    PS. The parochialism as the stumbling block for ML is also Ayesha Jalal”s main thesis in Sole Spokesman…unfortunately people who write from “memory” don’t bother to read and allow their minds to grow.

  25. hoss

    The traitor will tell you how to spin. The dullest question I often hear is how many of them were Punjabis or mohajir. Did they take over the country all by themselves or were they supported by the army institution? Interestingly, I never mentioned anything about Punjabi in my post but the guilt takes over the reasons right away. I have never claimed that since Kiyani is a Punjabi, he is making the life difficult for a Sindhi President. Their ethnicity has nothing to do with what they do on behalf of the institutions. I talk about the army as an institution and not some individuals who come and go but the army never changes. Asking questions about generals’ ethnic background shows political immaturity and nothing else.
    Faiz was a communist Party member/sympathizer; he did what the CP expected him to do. To think otherwise is just childish. He did not take over Pak times or Imroz because he wanted to. He was working for the Party. The CP was at the forefront of the Provincial rights. CPP was part of the NAP coalition which supported greater provincial autonomy. Faiz never once acted against the party approach and always supported the provincial rights. He never supported strong center and after the Bengal was gone, he supported the provincial rights and greater autonomy for the remaining provinces as part of his political creed. He was not against the army per se but he was against what the Army was doing to the country by denying people their democratic rights and using military actions thus murdering people for demanding the same rights.
    Just love the logic that talking about the people’s right and democracy is all about parochialism. Just whose parochialism is against the Punjab when the provinces barely have any rights and the army operation is on in two smaller provinces? Another interesting facet of the whole thing is that the major part of the current debate in the parliament for the constitutional amendments is over the provincial rights.
    Jalal is not the final word on the political difference in Pakistan, she is just one voice. She is right at some places and wrong at others. There are many others who have written more intelligently. Try Dr. Mubarak sometime. A person who does not even understand provincial rights and calls ithem parochialism might have just read Jalal but can never understand what she actually meant.
    You started the abuse and I warned you, so either you start behaving like a grown up to or be prepared to hear what I say.
    Bciv, I will discuss this at some other thread but when was the last time the PA took orders from a civilian? Bhutto and the army both wanted to do that and they did. Bhutto died because he defied later and NS’s ass was saved by the Saudis.

  26. ylh

    Hoss,

    You are a joker…you came out throwing punches at the Punjabi demons and now you claim to have not pointed fingers.

    Unlike you I have taken a pro-Zardari stance post NRO judgment where I see a genuine claim. You haven’t. That should speak volumes.

    Unlike you I don’t support any side based on my own biases.

    As for Faiz… he was no hypocrite. Interestingly in 1947 he was not even a CP member. So the party policy line does not apply…but do tell if it was the CP directive in 1965 …a war mind you India was right on in my own view in terms of the balance of “wrongs”.

    I am sorry but you are a major disappointment hoss and I am seriously considering putting you on spam.

  27. ylh

    “A person who does not even understand provincial rights and calls ithem parochialism might have just read Jalal but can never understand what she actually meant.”

    This is what happens when you put a poorly educated person in charge of a blackberry and let him loose in the US. Provincial rights are not the same as parochialism… the rights of provinces are constitutional matters to be dealt with through that document. For example where do the residual powers lie…how wide is the scope of the federal government …etc…I for one favor a very limited federal government based on defence, foreign affairs, currency and taxation to support it…nothing more nothing less.

    This confusion of provinces and their constitutional position in the federation with ethno-fascism that GM Syed types favor can at best be a strawman fallacy.

  28. hoss

    When stumped you put everyone on spam…actually I think you don’t even know how to put one on spam. Try your luck any time. A little power at this blog makes you think you can do anything. Sorry dude, these things are a little beyond your choti se samajhdani.
    It is not me; it is you who is equating the provincial rights with parochialism. Provincial rights, yeah sure, are decided in the constitution but it takes political struggle to get to that point. How could you explain what political struggle is all about to someone who think the PA = state of Pakistan.
    You have no clue abt. what Faiz was before Partition. He did not join the British army because he loved it, he was asked by the CPI to do that. Just learn a few things about what politics is all about.
    You don’t learn fundamentals by reading two or three books about Jinnah.

  29. B. Civilian

    hoss

    my question was precisely and only about those two years: 17 dec ’71 to start of operation in balochistan, with the release of PoWs/Shimla and sacking of gul hassan in between. once sent into balochistan, with tikka khan leading – a soldier who knew he was not paid to think, a cowered and coy army was back in business, thanks to bhutto. he had effecively paved the road to his own end 5 years later.

    i’ll look forward to the discussion.

  30. hoss

    Bciv,

    “thanks to bhutto. he had effecively paved the road to his own end 5 years later.”

    I agree there completely. That was first of the many mistakes that Bhutto made in dealing with the army.

  31. ylh

    “Stumped”

    You have a very high opinion of your arguments. Your arguments are mostly crap and make no sense and are historically always inaccurate.

    {{EDITED for bad language}} you are completely irrelevant.

    {{EDITED for bad language}}. Just a thought.

  32. ylh

    Returning to Zaid Hamid… I am happy to report that massive desertion is now underway in his ridiculous little fascist project.

    Extremists like Zaid Hamid, Hoss and his friend Shireen Mazari have only limited appeal amongst the sane and reasonable people.

  33. hoss

    Yeps. Continue with your childish tantrums/ abuse. I will respond when I feel like it.

  34. ylh

    Well you already did …big baby.

  35. Majumdar

    Yasser Pai,

    Licking GM Syed’s unmentionables does not give anyone any superiority over others either.

    That was uncalled for. I think you are too seasoned and intelligent a blogger to resort to this.

    Regards

  36. karunx

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  37. yasserlatifhamdani

    Majumdar,

    Acknowledged. Fixed.

  38. aliarqam

    @YLH
    I couldn’t understand when U while having valid points and enough knowledge of an issue chose the way of abuses and bad language…..
    “Threatening to Put someone on Spam”
    Am happy to see someone at the PTH who even EDITED Ur comments for the reasons mentioned, a rebuttal to what U have threatened…

    “The rights of provinces are constitutional matters to be dealt with through that document. For example where do the residual powers lie…how wide is the scope of the federal government …etc…I for one favor a very limited federal government based on defence, foreign affairs, currency and taxation to support it…nothing more nothing less.”
    These lines were enough for Ur stance on the issue…..

  39. dr jawwad khan

    here he goes again the “tun flight” aka biggest islamophobe of pakistan aka Nadeem F. Paracha (NFP) raising hue and cry.
    The difference between Hamid Mir and the “tun flight” is the Hamid Mir’s have full grown functionally active brain unlike primitive, addicted and functionally disabled brain of NFP.

    “kamal ka waqt aagaya hay. jin bhangiyon ko toilet saf karna chahiyay woh akhbar men column likh rahay hen.”

  40. YLH's Fan

    Chalo Jee, here comes the usual rabid NFPphobe.
    Dr. Javaad Khan,
    Kya aap ko Syphilis ka attack hogaya hai? Zaid hamid aap logon kya khila raha hai? Lagta hai aap pichley janam mein cockeroach thy.

    Weisey, bhaiya, aap kis cheez kay ‘doctor; hein? Wohi, “Dr” Zaid Hamid wallay?

  41. dr jawwad khan

    i am a consultant YLH-ist. every YLH affected patient comes to me. Even YLH once consulted me
    🙂 .

  42. ylh

    Aliarqam,

    I edited my words. So I am not sure what “rebuttal” it is.

  43. yasserlatifhamdani

    BCIV,

    Don’t forget Bhutto’s role in assigning ISI to political matters…

  44. Aliarqam

    @YLH
    I thought it was done by someone else…means another editor
    Its Ok…but my point is the same….U dont need expressing ur view through abusive language…as U have knowledge to reply decently

  45. yasserlatifhamdani

    Agreed.

  46. B. Civilian

    YLH

    very true. i had overlooked that. it was poison that even an institution without a compromising history could not have avoided being damaged by.

  47. Ganpat Ram

    YASSERLAIFHAMDANI:

    As a Hindu I read all this and only feel: we Hindus had a VERY narrow escape in 1947. Jinnah saved us.

    I am amazed you are still lamenting the failure of the Cabinet Mission Plan.

    Imgine if the Pakistan deal had not gone through and we were stuck with the Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims – nearly 500 millions of them……India would have been a bedlam and the Hindu-Muslim battles so daily and unceasing that life would have been unbearable.

    The one who matters is Jinnah, because out of an impossible situation he forced through some sort of deal which gave both Hindus AND Muslims a future.

    Admittedly the cost was very great, and I regret the heavy loss of life in the Partition riots as much as anyone. But without a Partition, the chaos and communal battles would have destroyed India.

    As for Nehru’s reasons for accepting Patition, they are crystal clear. Nehru, often an indecisive man, was at his very best in this crucual time for the fate of India. He and Patel took a very hard decision and saved the country from complete collapse. Here is what Nehru told his biographer Michael Brecher in about 1960:

    “”Well, I suppose it was the compulsion of events and the feeling that we couldn’t get out of the deadlock by pursuing the way we had done….the feeling that even if we go freedom for india, with that background [i.e. under the Cabinet Mission scheme] , it would be a very weak India, that is, a federal India with far too much power in the federating units. A larger India would have constant disintegrating pulls. ….and so we accepted [Partition] and said, let us build up a strong India. And if others do not want to be in it, well, how can we and why should we force them to be in it?”

    All those who say Jinnah was just bluffing with his Pakistan demand and did not really want Partition have to be asked: Do you seriously think the rest of India has nothing better to do with its time than to play bluffing games with Jinnah?

    How many more bluffs were there going to be?

    Nehru needed a strong central government to integrate India and enable it to survive. Jinnh would accept only a central state weakened to the extreme. That was asking for civil war and chaos.

    We can now say: Well done, Panditji! You let two-thirds of the turbulent Muslims go to their two widely separated pieces of land, and saved most of the good parts of India for the rest of us, in one piece.

    Jinnah was beaten hands down in the poker match by clever Panditji.