Racism Debate UK:Jade,Shilpa and Imran

Advisory Warning: The Article is Intended for starting a debate on issues of Race and Religion. Some readers might find the discussion offensive,but it is printed in the spirit of freedom of expression.The debate is not in favour of or Against any racial or religious Group.The editors reserve the right to disagree with the author.-PTH


Jolly Goody anf You Bloody Paki:

Bradistan calling

Mrs. Jade Tweed (nee Goody) Died in Sleep on March 22, 2009(Mothers’ Day in UK) after suffering from Cancer. She left behind two sons and a grieving husband.

Ms. Jade Goody got into spot-light thru Big Brother (a reality show where participants live in house monitored by TV cameras 24 hours).Her behaviour in BB got a lot of press coverage. Jade became a star for both Right and Wrong reasons-as they say in show biz all publicity is OK- and it got her a lot of money.An invitation into celebrity version of BB House, where her racism and bullying toward fellow star Indian film star Shilpa Shetty got UK and India relations into trouble.


In a era of equality and human rights what happened in BB house can not be allowed to be aired in any open democratic and modern society, UK Indians felt the full media glare of racism debate focused on them and naturally tempers were flamed both in India and



Jade Goody apologised and was forgiven by Shilpa. Jade went to India to be a peace ambassador. It was on the sets of BB India 2008 show where Jade found out that she had cancer. It was devastating for her and her two kids.Even in that moment of grief, she decided to use her celebrity status to leave behind a large sum of money and secure future for kids by employing – what can only be described as 24 hour media team with cameras – Public Relations Guru Max Clifford.


The tabloid press (what Pakistanis jokingly call “Yellow Journalism” for their sensational and sexual content) came to Jade’s help in full force. Jade hastily arranged a lavish wedding with long term  Boyfriend( Live-Together Partner in UK lexicon) Jack Tweed for the benefit of OK magazine and living TV who  broadcasted the pictures  earning heavy revenue and part of the money going for kids education fund after Jade’s death.

Jack Tweed himself has a colourful past with drugs and assault charges in the courts of law.What ever happens to  kids future,the media circus will continue their headlines to sell more newspapers in a time of economic recession.


Jade’s media profile increased awareness of Cancer in women. Her wedding and christening her sons raised the profile of religion in British society. Will Shilpa Shetty and Imran Khan continue charity appeal on Cancer issues? Can this become a rallying call for cancer charities in UK, remains to be seen?


The grief felt by British public on her death has forced Politicians to issue statements of sympathy. Actor/Director Stephen Fry called her “Princess Diana” from wrong side of the tracks (one  who was from Poor family and was not very well educated).

But, was this a true reflection of things in British society and British ethnic minorities?

THE BIG ISSUE is the Gulf between Hindu and Muslims of BRITAIN.


Hindus and Sikhs (few exceptions) are considered IT professional Bangalore-Well Educated, well Paid and moving quickly in Social mobility ladder in UK. They consider themselves middle –class. Muslims (Pakistanis, Bangladeshi) are generally considered as working Class (Low Paid, Low Education Level) doing jobs like Taxis and Pizza delivery take away.


Asian was a Term of Social indicator classification, coined in 1950s to describe anyone from former British Indian colony of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and later Bengal, Nepal and other south Asians from Fiji and East African colony Uganda and Kenya. Asian and Apne Log (our own People ) was considered a badge of honour in 1960-2001.Post 9/11 things have changed dramatically.


The Big brother racism debate blew the lid off the stiff upper lip elite of Millionaire businessmen’s etiquette of the dinner parties. The gossip is in full swing on racist word “Pakis” being labelled on do-gooder Indian millionaires. These People have created more offence on the TV than the Race Relations Commission could handle.


The Government (so called left) could not to deal with Race and Religion “Hot Potato”. New labour race record has already plummeted to new lows. The new generation of working class Pakistani immigrants sees their ONLY Salvation in PVE (government abbreviation for Preventing Violent Extremism), judging by attitude young generation wants to protect violent extremism in Muslims of Britain. Government can only hope and pray that they can brush PVE under the carpet and close the Pandora’s Box of this mirror showing the racism of Real Britain.

Refugee phobia, Xenophobia and Islam phobia, which was in the incubator of rightwing politics has fully grown into a monster nourished and fed by lies and deceit of BNP(far right British national white supremacists ) and NF(National Front also known as Hitler Youth) criminality. This fully protected dual hypocrisy of Tories and New Labour, miserably fails to tackle Drugs, Unemployment and sliding education standards in the apartheid “White/Paki” ghettos of North of England. The Local Council Housing-Estates have become “No-Go” areas for coloured (Black and Asian) people.



The biggest causality of this Political-drama is the prestigious and high class Suited-Booted Hindu Council of Britain and the Sikh federation. Their executives ran from pillar to post with shame of being called  “YOU Bloody IND#@$

Same millionaire Councils (of religious Divide and Rule) commissioned a survey  a few years back, arguing that Hindus and Sikhs don’t want to be identified as Asian or being categorised with “those mushy(derogatory slang for Muslims, not President Musharraf) PA#!S(Pakistanis)”.


Saying “we are not the Terrorists that these Muslims(Asians) have become” and that Hindu and Sikhs are more loyal to the KING than these Uneducated ,Good for nothing Taxi Driver Mushys. Sir Iqbal Sugarani (who got a Knighthood from the Queen for his services to his OWN Muslim Council of Britain) took offence, “How dare you Call Muslims Terrorist”.



Unfortunately these Hindu, Muslim Lords and Sirs are more concerned about their Collar (dog, no offence intended) and their cheque-books than about the Indian shopkeeper or Muslim Taxi Driver on the street of Britain.


Fortunately these media gimmicks fail to divide the community on religious grounds. Hindu Muslim moderate councils did not break any ice with racist thugs either. In the policy of appeasement, the only winners are the Nazis and the Terrorists (remember Chamberlain and Hitler, Swat and Bin Laden).


Bollywood movie “I, Proud to be Indian” clearly captures the panorama of fear among the Immigrants (Blacks and Asians) living in England’s Poor Council Housing –estates.

THE DOG TRIBE in the North West of England and East of London in their nightly raids on Ethnic Minorities (coloured people) don’t care about Hindu Muslim name badge. NF and BNP don’t ask for British ID Card before launching into vicious GBH (Grievous Bodily Harm) attack on a lone walker in a dark lane.

 The racist thugs of NF and BNP don’t care if coloured are Hindu , Muslim or Sikhs African or Jamaican. They are all PAKI (a sad fact of life for hundreds of Communities living in constant fear).


The first person killed in revenge attack after 9/11 was Balbir Singh Sodi a turbaned Sikh (uncanny resemblance to that Terrorist Usamma Bin Laden). Balbir was killed in cold blood by Ku Klux Klan in Arizona. His family is still waiting for his return from the petrol station job that he so peacefully went to thinking he was safe in Land of Plenty. Contrary to what Muslim council, Hindu council or Sikh federation want us to believe, KKK don’t issue apology letter saying sorry for killing a non Muslim by mistake.

Fascists’ don’t pick and chose victims, on the bases religions, for attacks. A delusional Sikh School –master Raj (pen name, I presume,) writes for BNP magazine advocating apartheid between Muslims and non-Muslims in UK)


The Choice is Simple United we Stand, Divided we Die. The Elitists millionaire Hindus, Muslim Councils should wake up and smell the morning coffee.



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18 responses to “Racism Debate UK:Jade,Shilpa and Imran

  1. Ali

    /The Choice is Simple United we Stand, Divided we Die/

    An interesting mix of stories that fails to in any way support the rather exaggerated and seemingly emotional conclusion. I fail to see what is wrong with the basic notion of British Indians/Hindus/Sikhs trying to be recongnized as a distict community from the Muslims which infact they are ,rather than being lumped as together as a monolith under the term “Asians”.

  2. Chris Hayes

    I think the article needs a spot of editing.
    Anyway not sure which part of the UK you come from but things are rarely that simple. The level of ‘intergration’ amoungst groups is different in different parts of the country. Indeed different parts of a city. Take gangs. In some areas a racially harmonious mix of thugs from different ethnicities, in others ethnically segregated.
    When my dad was a kid in London he would be offended by signs saying no blacks, no dogs, no Irish (he being Irish). Some places today still don’t allow dogs. And some parts of the UK still wouldn’t allow the Irish (admitably mostly in Scotland and maybe Coventry).
    Racism is also a very difficult thing to deal with. In the MET police they were forced to remove a series of tests that identified racist attitudes amoungst Police recruits as it was leading to too many black and asian recruits being thrown out, a result any fool could have told them if they weren’t employing bigger fools in the HR department (minority communities in most countries typically having strict views about a range of issues that would be identified as racist by the majority).
    Anyway back to the asian divide. Certainly following the upsurge in international muslim terrorists there were actually campaigns, especially by Sikhs, to explain that they weren’t muslims. Somewhat cowardly but a valid response if you feared persecution. (A loverly sketch featured Sikhs and Muslems, with the Muslims saying since the attacks things have become worse for them. The Sikhs then say, yes they have become worse for us as well, as they thing we are the same as you.)
    In my experience though the divide amoungst asians is less ideology and more ethnicity. Kashmiris make up the majority of muslims in the UK and traditionally other muslims – mostly Bengalis but also east europeans and arabs – want nothing to do with a bunch of people they see as backward racists that either want nothing to do with them, or alternatively wish to tell them how they should be living.
    Both Kashmiris and Bengalis have atroious levels of educational attainment, even worse than the dozy whites from northern council estates. This is mostly attributed to a desire to remain seperate from the British, take daughters out of school early to get married and start cooking at home and try and immerse home lives in the culture their grandfathers left behind.
    In truth its somewhat baffling why they do so badly when other long standing communities – say Polish and Serb, both going back a couple of hundred years in distinct London communities – have no such problems, and more so when compared to Hindu (mostly Gujarati) families (or even Chinese) who do so well. The reason bandied around in the UK by the latter groups is that the former simply don’t value education meaningfully, in that home lives don’t emphasise it. Certainly with schools now in areas like Bradford staffed by co-ethnictists and attended largely by that one ethnicity the old arguements of discrimination within such institutions are harder to use.
    Another fragment of the puzzling blend of attitudes in the UK is that all the recent race rioting has been between blacks (often even worse off than the asians) and asians (who are running the shops the black communities use), with white police looking somewhat baffled.
    Blacks themselves are having something of an identity crisis with tensions between west indies/caribean blacks and those from Africa, who resent being lumped together (with the Africans hating each others guts based on nationality and ethnicity). Some younger members have turned to an American black identity, which often just makes them look silly and get beaten up by a bunch of North Nigerians who find them offensive to God.
    Even sillier are the asian youths who adopt a ‘gangsta’ look, replete with rapper jewelry (maybe not so surprising givent he love of jewelry in the sub continent, maybe all the boys were getting jealous of only the girls getting to wear it all while they were restricted to rings), gang identity and a hilarious accent.
    Anyway the long and short of it is despite a long and rambling post the UK is a small island of very high levels of diversity. And if I were you I’d ask around when arriving somewhere knew to ensure you don’t fall afoul of the wrong groups, with of course taking particular care to watch out for those who might consider you the same as them, as that is where most of the violence occurs (within, not between, communities).

  3. Danial Burki

    This is so poorly written it barely gets any point through.

  4. PMA

    Consistent with other posts by ‘Bradistan Calling’ this is a very poorly written article. However the article does raise some interesting points about the race relation in the UK. The appeal for ‘unity’ among all South Asians and Africans (locally called coloured) in the face of English racism [United we Stand, Divided we Die] has some merit. It is also interesting to learn that Hindus & Sikhs of India wish to present themselves as a ‘separate and distinct’ group in UK, but in South Asian setting they often reverse the argument!

  5. I think ,I admited the Poorly Written guilt somewhere.My typing skills “let me down” again in spelling mistakes. Post script serious editing errors.

    But the POINT stands, The struggle against Racism is a long one.
    I think ,Obama victory shows that “Common Manifesto” for social change/racial reconciliation can be successful??
    reading Obama might be helpful for Pakistani and Indian Politicians,full stop.

  6. Indian

    Sikhs are a brave, jolly, proud and very enterprising community. If i were them, i would feel as bad as they do in ref. to this issue.
    The point about education is the basic issue. The other being a will to integrate. I do see people from Souther Indian states continuing to resist food, music and groups of whites even when living in Europe for 20 or more years. In my workplace i am the only Asian having a white lunch group ? Why is this so. A resitance to integration – if this is because one feels that their values are superior and will be polluted, then natives would reply – You bloody ##### go back by the next boat.

  7. stuka

    “It is also interesting to learn that Hindus & Sikhs of India wish to present themselves as a ’separate and distinct’ group in UK, but in South Asian setting they often reverse the argument!”

    You are confusing two different groups. The leftist Indians say “same same” in both UK and India. The rightists say “different different” again in both UK and India. The truth lies in between..only an idiot will refuse to acknowledge that there are some similarities in culture – which is why Pakiistanis and Indians spend a decent time and money consuming each other’s popular culture relative to that of Algeria and Indonesia. Flip side, two distinct nationalities, distinct historical narratives and distinct sense of selves exist as well.

  8. PMA

    stuka: I agree with you. The truth lies somewhere between the “same-same” and “different-different” positions. On both sides of any common border there have to be cultural similarities especially when the border is only sixty years old. But as one moves away from the border the commonality fades away and differences become more pronounced. That is why Hindus of India have very poor knowledge of Pashtuns of Pakistan & Afghanistan from whom they are far removed. But they would like to comment on current political problems in the tribal regions of Pakistan any way. Painting with a broad brush Indians tend to think that all Pashtuns are Taliban and they have taken over the Frontier province of Pakistan. But that is how ignorance works.

  9. Indian

    Lol! the ignorant rule the Steel empire in Europe and Diamond business in Antwerp, win spellbee in US , rule Silicon valley and have reached moon and the so called wise are struggling to end the day without a bomb blast.

  10. PMA

    Dear gleeful ‘Indian’. Thank you for sharing the short list of Indian world wide achievements. Congratulations. Now while you are at it, from your other shirt pocket would you also pull out the list of failures and shortcomings of India and share them with the readers of Pak Tea House as well?

  11. Shohojatri

    “The Article is Intended for starting a debate on issues of Race and Religion. Some readers might find the discussion offensive,but it is printed in the spirit of freedom of expression.”

    It is so refreshing to find that the administrators of PTH have a sense of humour.

    If this awful piece of classroom juvenilia is supposed to start a debate on issues of race and religion, it needs to be written on a system with a decent spelling checker at the very least, and apart from that to be written to a framework which allows the author to put down his core argument somewhere and remind himself about it from time to time. In any case, reading it does not give the impression that any one perpetrator is responsible for it; if we are to go by the superficial suggestions contained within, perhaps it is a team effort, with constituents from several ethnic and cultural backgrounds. Nothing else can possibly account for the incredible lack of direction of the piece, or for its shambling, uncouth appeals to the lowest common denominator.

    Actually, I do find it offensive. What is it doing here? Taking up time and space? Is it seriously offered for consideration by the readers?

    It is certainly possible to extend an amnesty to it and its author alike on the grounds of freedom of expression (although Chris Hayes and PMA have already put it out of its misery with well-placed skewers), but one is seriously concerned about the extent of this freedom.

    Note that it is not freedom of speech that is put up as a defence, nor even freedom of thought. Very wisely, the matter has been left very broad by pleading for freedom of expression. Very wise, because only under the shelter of such very broad terms can this find succour; on the other hand, there is the imminent peril that various biological and natural functions might hereafter find comfort and support under the same terminology. It seems as if nothing is ruled out.

    Rather than take up any futile effort at evaluating it, forget about initiating a debate on the strength of the non-existent arguments within, one is inclined to advise the author to repeat his year. Perhaps with a dictionary (an English one, might it be added for clarity) next to him for encouragement. What is the language used in public places in Bradistan?

  12. a mumbaiker

    “Indian” gleeful at bomb blasts (which kill human beings), “PMA” more eager to go deny India’s achievements than worry about his own countrymen dying. What great homosapien sapien specimens, indeed. A South Asian speciality?

  13. PMA

    Dear ‘mumbaiker’: No one could deny any one of his or her achievements. What is irksome is this cocky attitude of chimp-like chest thumping in which some Indians indulge here at PTH. A section of Indian society has done good in certain areas. At the same time India also houses three quarters of a billion miserably poor and malnourished humanity. India is a mixed bag full of contradictions and extremes. But it gives me no joy to see so many miserable Indians sleeping on top of live sewers in your Mumbai. At the same time I am deeply disturbed the way Pakistan is caught up in the game of international intrigues. Indian-American nexus has created a great instability in the region. Encouraged by the USA India has up the stakes in South Asia. I hope she realizes the consequences of her increasing involvement with America, particularly in Afghanistan. Many have burned their fingers in Afghanistan. India must be careful.

  14. bonobashi


    My personal recommendation is that you ignore the bumptious behaviour you have described and respond only to the sensible. Replying each and every jingo is a task for which you will have to be born many, many times over. Just let them be.

    I liked your depiction of cultural affinities shading away in all directions from points of coincidence. Very subtle and very illustrative. Explains a great deal, very economically. However, I must confess that I disagree with some of your views on the international context. Perhaps on a more suitable thread there may be an opportunity to ask you in greater detail about your views.

  15. PMA

    bonobashi must be a Bengali (bangla) word. It sounds very romantic and poetic. What does it mean? And about being born many many times over. I am afraid I have only one life to live. Once gone, I’ll be gone for ever. But I’ll take your advise to heart. Cheers.

  16. bonobashi


    You have found me out, Sir!

    I used the name for two reasons, one self-pitying, the other truly beautiful.

    I have been working (within India) at various places separated from my wife and daughter who live in Bangalore for work reasons, for eight years now. So in protest, I called myself bonobashi – dweller in the forest.

    The other reason is from a line by one of my favourite Sufi poets, Lalan Fakir:

    “amra chilam bonobashi koregele modinabashi toma hote geyan peyechi achi shantona asmani ek ain diye amader sob anle rahe”

    We were forest-dwellers,
    You brought us to the peace of Madina,
    You gave us knowledge of the Lord,
    Your laws brought us to the true path….

    Lalan Fakir was open-minded in his beliefs but Islam imbued him through and through.

    Please don’t get me wrong; I am a Hindu, and an agnostic and it is unlikely that I will ever change. These lines don’t indicate my religious loyalties. If I did change, I might be a Sikh or a Buddhist. But Lalan Fakir was a singer who could sway anyone to the way of God. These lines of his are mesmeric and I cannot resist them.

    Alvi Sahib, please ignore potshots from those who don’t have your background and culture. It hurts to see a man of your stature upset by these remarks. My apologies. Not all Indians are boors.

  17. PMA

    So ‘bonobashi’ would be same as ‘bun-basi’ or ‘bun-jara’ in Hindi with ‘dasht naward’ as its Urdu/Persian equivalent. Very interesting.

  18. bonobashi


    In a sentence, yes, except perhaps the Hindi words would better transliterate as ‘van-vasi’, or as ‘vanjara’. As is well-known, in this part of the world, we have declared war on the ‘v’ sound and won the war.

    I was fascinated to learn the Urdu equivalent. Now to find an occasion to use it.